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Did Obama really graduate magna cum laude from Harvard?
Posted on 12/15/2010 9:56:11 AM PST by big black dog
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To: big black dog
EVERYONE at harvard graduates with honors. Grades are a joke over there.
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posted on
12/15/2010 11:55:15 AM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: connjdllm
“WHERE HE WAS HOUSED WITH THE FOREIGN STUDENTS.”
Yes, but it he was placed there occidentally.
You owe the oracle whitened teeth.
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posted on
12/15/2010 12:03:52 PM PST
by
dangus
To: struggle
Magna cum Laude? More like Thank the Laude!
How about "MAGNA CUM FRAUDE" ?
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posted on
12/15/2010 12:24:37 PM PST
by
Huebolt
(It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
To: big black dog
We don't even have any proof his name is Barack Hussein Obama.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
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posted on
12/15/2010 12:28:55 PM PST
by
The Comedian
(Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
To: Lonesome in Massachussets
FWIW, graduates of Suffolk (Close Cover Before Striking) Law are more likely to pass the Mass. Bar Exam on their first try than graduates of Haavaad Lore. They do not teach Law at Harvard Law.The graduates of small law schools generally have higher first-time pass rates than the graduates of the larger, 'national' schools.
The smaller schools generally teach state-specific law. They teach what the law in that state IS. They frequently require that students spend time in clinics and court clerkships in which the students get first-hand experience with pleadings, discovery, and filings.
The larger, 'national' law schools teach a method of thinking. They teach how the law was developed and WHY there are different legal approaches to the same legal point in different jurisdictions. They are taught to differentiate and to argue public policy and reasons why existing law should or shouldn't be applied in a particular case.
If you want someone to pass the bar in State "X" and immediately to know how to file a pleading in State "X", then you're better off with a graduate of a smaller law school in State "X". However, that student has issues if he or she goes to another state at the beginning of his or her legal career.
If you want someone to argue legal theories and to try and convince an appellate judge that existing law should be changed, and you're looking for someone right out of law school, then you're better off with a graduate of a major 'national' law school. And the national law school graduates can go to virtually any state except Louisiana and take the bar exam.
Those Harvard students aren't learning Massachusetts law. They're learning legal theories and policies behind applying or changing laws. The Suffolk Law students are learning Massachusetts law, for the most part.
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posted on
12/15/2010 12:50:27 PM PST
by
Scoutmaster
(You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
To: big black dog
Did Obama really graduate magna cum laude from Harvard?
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Does anybody know of any proof of this? Yes he did.
I read it on the Internet.
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posted on
12/15/2010 12:54:43 PM PST
by
Oztrich Boy
(History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce - Karl Marx)
To: big black dog; All
Here is sort of oblique proof. Someone clainmed to have graduated with Obama, this was disputed, and the accused showed up with a commencement program listing both Obama and the accused. I don't yet have the document, but this is obscure enough so that I think it's real. There were supposedly pictures too.
(Sue him Mr.Grant and do St.Pauls and Dieppebay people a favour.
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BASSETERRE, St. Kitts - PRIME MINISTER of St. Kitts-Nevis Dr. the Hon. Denzil Douglas has been reported to the US State Department for allegedly fraudulent statements regarding the graduating class of US President Barack Hussein Obama. At a press conference held yesterday (Mar. 25) at the Peoples Action Movements (PAM) Secretariat Office on Church Street, Political Leader of the party Lindsay Grant said that Douglas had blatantly lied about the PAM Leader graduating from the same Harvard Law School class as Obama. On Sunday night the behaviour of Denzil Douglas at one of his partys political meetings left much to be desired and it is the type of politics we wish to get rid of. On Sunday, he told his supporters that he had gotten information from the State Department that I had not been in class or at school with President Obama, Grant said. The claims of Douglas making the mentioned statements were later verified after SKNVibes obtained a copy of the audio from the political rally, which was held near the constituency office in Central Basseterre.. Baby Grant, when Obama run, he said that he went to school with Obama. They were in the same class, PM Douglas said at the rally. Well, I asked the United States government to send me information pertaining to the graduating class of Obama. I have received a full photograph of every single graduate, with Obama circled for me by the United States government and up until now me ah look for baby Grant and me cant find him, he added. Douglas further stated at the rally that the caption to the photograph did not contain Grants name. But that aint all you know, because maybe I miss him because hes small, but I look at the legend of the photograph. Every single person in that photograph who was graduating with Obama, they name right there and me nah see none called Lindsay Fitzy Grant up to now. Up to now me nah see nothing like that, but that is what Grant is.Grant is a liar! He is a fraud! Douglas exclaimed to the crowd. At the press conference, PAM distributed programmes from the June 6, 1991 Commencement Ceremony of the Harvard Law School held at Holmes Field. In the programme, Obama is listed as receiving his Juris Doctorate and Grant a Masters of Laws at the ceremony, seemingly indicating that both men had in fact attended the institution at the same time. It is an undisputed historical fact that I share the same alma mater as US President Barack Obama, and that we went to school at Harvard at the same time, Grant stated. In addition to discussing legal action against the Prime Minister with his attorneys, Grant said that he found it necessary to report Douglas remarks to the US State Department. He told his supporters that he had gotten information from the State Department that I had not been in class or at school with President Obama. In the first case, the State Department would not give out that type of information on a sitting President to a foreign government.Is Denzil Douglas saying that the US government breached their national security protocols? In fact I have today sent off a letter to the State Department with an audio tape and transcript indicating what the Prime Minister has said and enquiring of the breaches of protocol.The PAM Leader stated that he would not have mentioned the issue if he did not believe it was a concern for the nation at a time when serious issues such as crime and the economy should be discussed at political rallies. The record shows that we did graduate together in 1991. The question that I put to the people is this: if Denzil Douglas could tell such a blatant lie on such a factual situation, and on a simple matter, what else is he capable of lying to the public about? Grant asked.
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posted on
12/15/2010 1:19:11 PM PST
by
DBrow
To: PGR88
He was Editor of Harvard Law Review ... Obama was President of the Law Review, not Editor. Law Review President is an elected position, not necessarily correlated with class rank and/or grades. So it's more like being elected King or Queen of the Prom than making class Valedictorian.
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posted on
12/15/2010 1:30:34 PM PST
by
chimera
To: Let's Roll
I was very concerned about this stuff during the election campaign and for various and probably obvious reasons nothing came of it. Now, Obama has been the President for almost two years. The real question for me now is how well he has done. The chances of finding out about his Harvard accomplishments, if there were any of significance, are minimal at best; it is a distraction.
He has done an absolutely rotten job as President, from January of 2009 till now. I see a Zero chance that he will become even a mediocre President, ever, and the country is now in a hole which will require the abilities of Hercules to muck out before we can recover. Even if President Obama wanted to do it, he neither knows how nor has the ability.
That would be a far more useful focus.
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posted on
12/15/2010 2:45:11 PM PST
by
DanMiller
(Dan Miller)
To: big black dog
I think it was momma come, lawdy, lawdy.
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posted on
12/15/2010 2:58:53 PM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: smokingfrog
In dozens of interviews, his [Obama’s] friends said they could not remember his specific views from that era, beyond a general emphasis on diversity and social and economic justice.
Rrrrrrriiiiiiggggghhhhhtttttt!
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posted on
12/15/2010 3:00:11 PM PST
by
Chickensoup
(I am no longer Republican or Democrat, I am Conservative.)
To: babble-on
I read that he wrote his way on, he did not get on the law review with his grades. I also read that he was chosen to be editor in chief when two rival factions couldn't agree on which smart guy would get it, so they handed it to the black guy.
In the essay he wrote to get on the law review, it could have been filled with stuff about his Indonesian, Kenyan black, oppressed life, and that might have been what got him on, not his skill at legal analysis. Which would make sense, when you read the things he has written--like the Columbia anti-nuke article. He is a crappy writer.
Bottom line is, there is a lot of conjecture, but no real evidence one way or the other how he got on law review. The story of how he got to be in charge is pretty well documented. What his grades at Harvard were has never been provided.
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posted on
12/15/2010 3:04:29 PM PST
by
Defiant
(There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
To: MaxMax
Look at all the things about Clinton that were overlooked - credible accusations of multiple rapes, credible evidence of real estate profiteering (seemingly a Democrat favorite), and even his brother on tape buying cocaine and saying, “Give me some for my brother, too. He has a nose like a vacuum cleaner.”
If you are a Marxists the MSM will see that you skate.
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posted on
12/15/2010 3:04:49 PM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: PGR88
He was Editor of Harvard Law Review ... He was President of Harvard Law Review, quite a different thing.
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posted on
12/15/2010 3:07:53 PM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: Wild Irish Rogue
In those days, and still, I imagine, the essay parts of the test are hand written. It would be a simple matter to match the handwriting. Of course, the test probably no longer exists. I doubt the bar examiners keep those things more than a year or two. But you never know.
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posted on
12/15/2010 3:13:56 PM PST
by
Defiant
(There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
To: smokingfrog
It is interesting that at that link they go into detail about Obama’s childhood, including the supposed date and place of his birth, but they don’t do that about any other president they describe.
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posted on
12/15/2010 3:39:12 PM PST
by
Mind-numbed Robot
(Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
To: Mind-numbed Robot
I don’t think we have to question the parentage of those other presidents.
Also interesting that every liberals favorite icon, F.D.R. was only a ‘C’ student.
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posted on
12/15/2010 4:10:11 PM PST
by
smokingfrog
(But what do I know?)
To: big black dog
Did Obama really graduate from Harvard?
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posted on
12/15/2010 5:08:55 PM PST
by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
To: Wild Irish Rogue
He wrote in Dreams about his mother yelling at him for being lazy, hanging out with drug dealers and having terrible grades his senior year of high school.
And yet. . .and yet, his bio says he graduated from high school with academic honors! Surely you don’t think his bio has been fudged?
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posted on
05/25/2012 3:18:30 PM PDT
by
Hootowl
To: big black dog
No, I think it was Magna Cum Fraud.
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posted on
05/25/2012 3:25:27 PM PDT
by
Rocky
(Obama is pure evil)
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