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To: betty boop
They ignore things like this, Flood Legends from Around the World, and all the archeology. Their loss. It only makes them look foolish and uninformed. And fearful.
19 posted on 12/03/2010 1:01:32 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; mainestategop; Alamo-Girl; metmom
They ignore things like this, Flood Legends from Around the World, and all the archeology.

So true, DJ MacWoW!

Jeepers, but even Plato had a flood myth — the Myth of Atlantis, in the dialogue Critias.... There are indications from all over the globe that disparate ancient peoples maintained cultural memories of a time when the world was very, very wet....

Notwithstanding, the ignoramus quoted by Mainestategop evidently believes that three millennia (at least) of human experience WRT the problems of God–man–world relations is to be chucked out because the people who have reported such things were totally self-deluded. Evidently it was only when this victim of Tourette's Syndrome was born that mankind proved himself "smart enuf" to shake off all illusions of the divine. Perhaps this moron is deluded enough himself to believe that evolution means people who are living now are "smarter" and less credulous than people who lived in earlier periods of human history.

How such an allegation can be proved is beyond me. Seems to me there were world-class geniuses at work long before the birth of Christ — and these very people set the very foundations of modern science as we know it (e.g., Pythagoras, Plato, Aristotle, et al.), and even anticipated some of science's greatest modern achievements (e.g., Democritus/father of atomic theory; Heraclitus/earliest imaginator of what would become the first and second laws of thermodynamics).

And it was the historical role of the Catholic Church to preserve this great legacy from the ancients, especially in the monasteries and later in the universities — themselves originally created as institutions of the Roman Catholic Church devoted to the accumulation, preservation, and transmission of secular knowledge....

Plus how does our resident moron explain a Chartres Cathedral? Mozart's Mass in C Minor? Michelangelo's David? Leonardo's Sistine Chapel? Are these the works of self-deluded madmen?

Just take Chartres Cathedral for an example. Its construction involved three generations of highly skilled craftsman, who labored to construct the most beautiful instantiation of a House of God of which they were capable. Go look at the stonework, the woodwork, its amazing Rose Window. The beauty and truth of God was the model they were working. Moreoever, its construction involved the discovery and first application of the flying buttress, an extraordinarily important architectural achievement.

Or how about the contributions to modern science of so many religious people, lay or in orders? Even the perennially skeptical Wikipedia gives credit where it's due:

Many great scientists throughout history have also been Roman Catholic clerics (or can it be said that many Roman Catholic clerics were also scientists), including many of the most prominent scientists in history. These include such illustrious names as Nicolaus Copernicus, Gregor Mendel [Augustinian monk and father of genetic theory], Albertus Magnus, Roger Bacon, Pierre Gassendi, Roger Joseph Boscovich, Marin Mersenne, Francesco Maria Grimaldi, Nicole Oresme, Jean Buridan, Robert Grosseteste, Christopher Clavius [they named a crater on the Moon after this astronomer], Nicolas Steno, Athanasius Kircher, Giovanni Battista Riccioli, William of Ockham, and many others. Hundreds of others have made important contributions to science from the Middle Ages through the present day.

Indeed, one has to wonder why science developed in a largely Catholic milieu....

The list omits the Jesuit priest and physicist Georges LeMaître, who discovered the Singularity at the origin of our Universe....

Were these people who subscribed to the "BI-BULL" self-deluded morons, inspired by/chasing illusions? If they were, then the glorious advancements in the natural sciences that these men were responsible for must be illusions, too.

Is our Tourettes sufferer willing to conclude that the achievements of these great thinkers are garbage because they believed in God?

Is our Tourettes sufferer capable of reason at all?

Science is supposed to set great store by evidence. To me, the above remarks constitute evidence.

FWIW.

22 posted on 12/03/2010 5:00:07 PM PST by betty boop (Seek truth and beauty together; you will never find them apart. — F. M. Cornford)
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