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To: TopQuark

STD (as far as I can tell) is helping to spread the the Soros infection news and plans. If you are a fan of George, you should state that right now.


7 posted on 11/16/2010 8:18:17 PM PST by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: txhurl
"STD (as far as I can tell) is helping to spread the the Soros infection news and plans."

You are telling me, TXHurl, something about STD's motivation: he wants "to spread the [awareness about] the Soros infection..." I never questioned his intentions.

No offense intended, but your reasoning, however unintentionally, is just like that of liberals: for them, intentions are all that matters; as long as they are good, nothing else matters.

Well, for most of our history, we Americans have subscribed to the notion that the ends do not justify the means. In addition to what you pursue, how you do that has also to be well-founded, just and moral. And that's exactly the problem with STD and the rest of conspiracy theorist. What they say not only lacks any foundation in fact or logic but also defames people.

Think about that for a minute. I would hope that, as an American, you would defend even a rapist against and a false accusation of rape. It's one of the Commandments: not to serve as a false witness. It does not say against whom -- that does not matter --- we should not be a false witness even against scum). It's also against the law.

But, according to you, apparently, defamation is OK if it is against someone that you and I don't like. If you don't like Kissinger, then go ahead, pile up nonsense and falsehoods against him -- that'd be OK with you.

" If you are a fan of George, you should state that right now."

See, it does not even occur to you that I simply dislike falsehoods and defamation. In your world, apparently, people just take sides for or against someone; they don't simply try to do what's right. Sad indeed.

Unlike STD, you are at least open-minded enough to pose a question. Thank you. That is why I am writing back at some length. STD, in contrast, merely called me names in post #11 and bragged about insulting yesterday another poster who, according to STD, is now "sulking" somewhere. And you hope to learn anything from such person? He does not give a d--n about the truth. It's all about him. Like many other bitter people, he mistakenly thiks that he looks better when he belittles other people. Well, throwing durt around does not make you cleaner.

And throwing dirt is all STD and his ilk do. What have you learned from his post? Only one thing: three people were once in the same room. That's all. From here he draws a conclusion that there is a conspiracy. Well, remember the Thanksgiving two years ago, when your family, including distant cousins, were at your house for dinner? You must've been plotting to take over the Fed. And anyone questioning that statement must be a Soros supporter. That's, in essence, STD's and other conspiracy theorists' "logic."

At a more scientific level, if you care, the mistake they make is well known and has a name of spurious correlation. Consider the fact that 99.99% of people that ever got into auto accidents ate tomatoes at least once in the year preceding the accident. A person that knows nothing about cars or tomatoes may conclude that the two are related, that eating tomatoes may even cause accidents. You would of course smile at that: This is merely a coincidence, a spurious correlation," you'd say. To persuade you about a relationship between eating tomatoes and accidents one would have to show more than the fact that they happened in the same year.

The anti-Fed theorists do exactly the same: Paulson worked at Goldman before becoming Bush's aid, so there you go: he bails out Goldman because those are his old buddies. Never mind the facts --- that Goldman never asked for a bailout and actually fought against it. Nope, they must be in cahoots. Total nonsense, of course. [ Coupled with the unprovoked anger in people like STD, this belief in the utter nonsense suggest that such people have schizoid personalities. Whether or not this is the case is for their psychiatrists to decide.] Their rants have nothing to do with the truth. Ever.

Those rants have consequences however. Whatever STD's and fromLouri's intentions are, they are playing the hand of the socialists in this country. Marx wanted you to be angry at the "financiers," the "rich," the "capitalists" and especially the "banks." [Actually there was the most evil category to be hated -- the Jews: they are supposed to be all rich, all in finance and all crooks. That's the only thing that the anti-Goldman, anti-Fed anti-CEO crowd does not bring up. Yet. In any other respect, they repeat the same thing as the Nazis in the 1930s Germany]. That's exactly what STDs and fromLouris are actually doing, regardless of their motivations. They are singing the communist song --- naturally, without any knowledge of what they are actually singing about. Beets learning some finance and economics before speaking on the subject.

It's your informed choice, TCHurl. You can continue to cheer the scoundrels that violate Judeo-Christian values by defaming people, or you can stand up for the age-old American tradition of defending the innocently accused (yes, even bad people). You can continue to repeat nonsensical criticisms of the Fed, the banks, the CEOs, etc. or actually learn something about what they do (or at least suspend judgment). And, you can continue to sing the Marxist songs of STD, fromLouri and the rest of that supposedly conservative crowd, or at least refuse to participate. And, in the very least, you've got to choose whom not to listen to when you have insufficient knowledge of some subject matter.

26 posted on 11/17/2010 11:07:23 AM PST by TopQuark
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