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Thoughts on Economic Liberty
Original essay | 11/06/2010 | John Beans

Posted on 11/06/2010 7:05:28 PM PDT by jbfastpitch

I believe we need to return to Federalism and Constitutional government. Today I heard a liberal proponent of a California bail-out say that CA residents deserve it because they only get $.80 in benefits for each tax dollar while Mississippi gets $2. For some reason the obvious solution to equity completely escapes this redistributionist. The central government has taken over local or individual responsibilities. We need to eliminate these redundancies and usurpations of local and individual freedom. We must end all central government regulations and agencies dedicated to unconstitutional usurpation of responsibility. This means EPA, Education, USDA, SEC, FDA, HUD, ICC and the rest of the alphabet soup of tyranny must end now. We need to repeal the 16th amendment and asses the states a proportional share of Constitutional Federal government. We need a government that adheres to the enumerated powers as envisioned by founding fathers that feared the excesses of a central government and demanded the tenth amendment to safeguard liberty from tyranny. I would rather make economic decisions based on value rather than government subsidy or penalty. I consider charity, health care, education and retirement an individual responsibility rather than a collective right granted by a tyrannical state. I am 64 ½ years old. Five and one half years ago I went into coronary arrest and was without vitals for 15 minutes. By the Grace of God, I survived. Since then I have assumed responsibility for my own health. I read about human biology and eat a proper diet along with nutritional supplementation. I do not want Medicare and if the government takes away Social Security I will simply get another job and cut back even further on my lifestyle. Freedom is not negotiable. Government has nothing to offer that I value above my liberty. John Beans 11/06/2010


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: federalism; responsibilities; rights; tyranny

1 posted on 11/06/2010 7:05:33 PM PDT by jbfastpitch
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To: jbfastpitch

Its kind of interesting that my local paper endorsed my congressman elect, not because he promised to bring money into the district, but because he didn’t.

That’s a seachange in Michigan.


2 posted on 11/06/2010 7:10:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: jbfastpitch

The liberal said they deserve it because money is being redistributed from a relatively wealthy California to a relatively poor Mississippi? I thought liberals wanted redistribution to “help the poor” - but I would be happy to halt such redistributions at the state level as long as none of us are taxed at income tax rates higher than anyone else, which would be 0 because about half the population doesn’t pay income tax.


3 posted on 11/06/2010 7:22:36 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: cripplecreek
Communist China factory workers. Take a long, hard, serious look at these poor sods. Americans? You leftists paying attention?


4 posted on 11/06/2010 7:27:17 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: jbfastpitch

Two pieces of Dem legislation have taken away all liberty period. Think of a carcass of beef, a side of beef in a freezer hanging by a curved two-pronged hook in isolation at below freezing. That is YOUR CARCASS. The explanation:

Obamacare...154 new agencies too massive and costly to implement right now, controlling your body down to each cell, blending over into a major control of your financial life too. Repeal is understandably desired. You want to own your God given body and not volunteer it for control, experimentation, manipulation by govt. central planners of central toxic purpose. People are well aware why the example of carcass is applicable.

The Consumer Financial Protection “Act”: People are not aware of why this is applicable at all in reference to carcass imagry. Public thought about the act seems to be absent altogether, and yet it is as devastating to your freedom of enterprise and property ownership as anything has ever been since the time of the British Colonist. This act renders a Constitution essentially inoperable as the first thing the Cons. protects is...PROPERTY and its management by YOU. Financial ownership, control of you, trumps anything YOU might own, if the FED OWNS you FINANCIALLY. It owns you Financially by this Act.

The Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection was formed by this act for your “protection”...it was done to you by DEMS.
The Bureau is created entirely within the Federal Reserve. The Fed will appoint all 10 of the Council to run, evaluate, advise and develop all policy regarding all aspects of consumers financial lives...micro-data collection, instant interface with IRS for instant tax collection if desired, consumer manipulation, control and manipulation of all housing aspects of the populations lives, etc...for the benefit of ...the Fed and its associated fiancial institutions. The Congress has no oversight of the Feds powers here. The Fed will use the Bureau to funnel its instructions (”recommendations”) thru the spokesperson for the Bureau appointed by the Treasury, directly to the Executive Branch/President for implementation...in the current case, CZARS, all exclusive of the US Congress. It is a form of receivership, disenfranchisement, as the public has nothing to say about the Feds management of all of its financial life. We have been bagged up, all of us and delivered to the Fed. DO YOU TRUST THE FED TO REPRESENT YOUR INTERESTS AND FORMER RIGHTS?

At a time when the unaudited Fed is suspected of ultimate chicanery’s, the Dems have handed YOU over to their ministrations entirely.

Is is acceptable to object rightfully to Obamacare and not to having been bagged up as a financial carcass and handed over to the Fed?

Here is Veon, providing Dodd’s comments and Shelby’s Senate comments before the Bureau was established...it describes the purpose of the Bureau including its purpose to “control the people”:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Veon/joan54.htm

In addition, note Sen Dodds comments especially and also Sen Shelbys’:

“The Senate voted 59-39 on Thursday to pass the bill – the chief aim of which is to more-heavily regulate the financial industry – sending it to a conference committee in the House of Representatives, where differences between the House and Senate versions will be ironed out.

The bill, if it becomes law, will create the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection and empower it to “gather information and activities of persons operating in consumer financial markets,” including the names and addresses of account holders, ATM and other transaction records, and the amount of money kept in each customer’s account.

The new bureaucracy is then allowed to “use the data on branches and [individual and personal] deposit accounts … for any purpose” and may keep all records on file for at least three years and these can be made publicly available upon request.

Senator Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) said that Democrats who claim this new bureaucracy will protect consumers are misleading the public.

“[T]he American people are being misled,” Shelby said on the Senate floor on Thursday night. “The authors of this bill are telling them that this legislation has been drafted to address the recent financial crisis and that it will ‘tame’ Wall Street. I am afraid that they are going to be disappointed.”

Shelby slammed the new consumer bureaucracy, saying that it was meant not to protect consumers but to “manage” them by monitoring their behavior.

“Mr. President, make no mistake, behind the veil of anti-Wall Street rhetoric is an unrelenting desire to manage every facet of commerce under the guise of consumer protection.

“They may be interested in protecting consumers, but they are more interested in managing them,” Shelby said.

Shelby also criticized the idea that Americans need government to watch over their every financial move, saying that it was better to allow people the freedom to make their own choices and fail than to never allow them the freedom to choose at all.

“Mr. President, I have faith in the American people and their ability to make good choices,” said Shelby. “Granted, we do not always choose well. But I believe that a poor choice freely made is far superior to a good choice made for me.”

Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., right, and the committee’s ranking Republican Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., emerge from a meeting on Capitol Hill in Washington, Monday, April 26, 2010, ahead of a crucial test vote for the financial reform bill. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
“I am afraid that the architects of this bill do not share this sentiment,” he said. “Nor do they share my faith in the American people.”

Shelby further said that the ability of the Federal Reserve to collect such detailed information about the most basic of financial transactions was the beginning of an effort by government to regulate every financial action of every American citizen.

“This new consumer bureaucracy is intended by its architects in the Treasury to begin the process of financial regulation with the intent of changing the behaviors of the American people,” said the senator.

Shelby appears to be correct. The bill allows the bureau to collect any and all information on any person operating in the financial markets.

As it reads: “[T]he Bureau shall have the authority to gather information from time to time regarding the organization, business conduct, markets, and activities of persons operating in consumer financial services markets.” (This includes credit card companies and persons using credit or ATM cards...you and me..every transaction can be reported to the IRS on request by the Consumer F. P. Agency, with its non-accountability to any US citizen, and its council of 10 making policies to control, monitor and alter the financial behavior of all citizens).


5 posted on 11/06/2010 7:28:31 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: CanaGuy

Can’t imagine there’s much creativity in that bunch.


6 posted on 11/06/2010 7:29:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: jbfastpitch

One other thing that would be telling is to stop having senators elected popularly. Yes, I know there was corruption and that is why it was changed, but that change did one major terrible thing, it moved the senators from the job there are supposed to do under the constitution, that is PROTECT the state, represent the state not the people in the state, and keep it the federal government from usurping State power and rights. The people have represenatives, the State has Senators.

I have no idea how the change would be made, but somehow we have to get back to having Senators who actually represent the interests of States.


7 posted on 11/06/2010 8:30:21 PM PDT by Ruth C
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To: Ruth C

One thing you could do is repeal the 16th amendment as assess the states for their share of the federal budget.
This should be coupled to a repeal of the 17th amendment as you suggest.


8 posted on 01/29/2011 1:18:03 PM PST by jbfastpitch (We can't afford it.)
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