[STE=Q]

I use the phrase “a right based on natural law” in the sense that a “Natural Born Citizen” has the “natural right” to run for President Of The United States — providing he meets the other requirements of age etc.

"In natural law, no one has a quote, “RIGHT” to citizenship. They have a choice at the coming of age what society they choose to align themselves too."

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I simply defined my terms.

A "RIGHT" based on Natural law is a Natural -- intrinsic -- indelible right.

It goes without saying that a Natural RIGHT can be exercised -- or not -- at the discretion of the individual, at the coming of age.

In fact, expatriation is itself a Natural Right -- as you pointed out in post #24

I believe one has a Natural right to self defense.

Does that mean one can't "choose" to be a pacifist?

Of course not!

There is no right, but there is a choice.

There may be both a Natural right AND a choice.

The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

"Government, in my humble opinion, should be formed to secure and to enlarge the exercise of the NATURAL rights of its members; and every government, which has not this in view, as its principal object, is not a government of the legitimate kind"... James Wilson, Lectures on Law, 1791

STE=Q

[patlin]

A man has a quote “natural right” under natural law to belong to “A SOCIETY” as man can not exist without it. Now naturally that would be the one he was born into through his parent's membership in that society, but ultimately it is his choice. The term “Natural” "ONLY" comes into play when the parents do not belong to another society, thus there was no foreign society that could claim the child as one of their own.

This was not the case of Obama. He clearly had a choice between 2 societies in which he was born into according to current US interpretation of the 14th. The 14th was NOT law in 1789 when A21C5 qualifications were written because at the moment of his birth to married parents, the father being British, Great Britain could claim him as one of their own if war should break out between the US & GB.

US Circuit Court, District of Columbia, 1808:
Contee v. Godfrey, 6 Fed. Cas. 361 (#3140) (U.S.C.C. D.C. 1808), denied that the British-born daughter of an American antenatus who had chosen the British side could claim citizenship under the statute 7 Anne c. 5 (discussed in Kettner, Am. Citizenship, 20) which in English law had extended subjectship to the foreign-born children of subjects. In this case, the parent’s choice of alienage (before the daughter’s birth) clearly affected the descendant.