Posted on 11/03/2010 10:07:40 AM PDT by The Political genius
Forgive me if this has already been covered in one of the previous threads but this is just too screwy for me to digest!
Ok, just trying to make some sense of this nonsense in West Virginia and Nevada from last night. So I was crunching numbers from the GOP tide in both states from the House Races vs The Senate Race! Here is what I came up with.
WV:
Manchin: 281,661.....Raese: 227,960
3 House seats: (R) 279,686..... (D) 225,651
NV:
Reed: 361,655.....Angle: 320,996
3 House seats:(R) 356,909..... (D) 316,877
Really??? Maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to believe that many folks would split their tickets!!
Am I wrong???
My neighbor is a Dim. He was not planning to vote until he discovered he could cancel mine! I live in Hampshire County, and R's did well! In addition, David McKinley took over a former D seat inCongress (WV-1).
Manchin wooed a lot of people with promises of independence. Yeah, right! He had lots of visits and help from TRUMKA and his unions hordes!!!
It's not the nature of the evidence but the seriousness of the charge, right?
The evidence suggests you are wrong. Reid won areas where the population centers are. Angle carried areas where the population is sparse. Angle got votes in the desert, literally.
You have that right but the real reason Manchin won was two fold. Personal attacks on Raese did the vast majority of damage. Raese didn’t run up Manchin’s negatives. He stayed on message till the end but I heard some of the nasty class warfare commercials against Raese and unfortunately they worked.
Manchin caste himself as a Conservative, like with his NRA endorsement ad with him shooting the cap and trade bill with a shotgun. Manchin is a popular governor.
Manchin ran as Ronald Reagan II
Additional candidates in the House races.
Minnesota is also suspect: GOP takes control over both state senate and house for first time in ages (and a long-time Dem loses in US congress)- and yet Dem Mark Dayton supposedly leads in the Governor’s race by one point.
Rural areas outvoted by city folks?
Or is it that the relative anonymity of an urban environment permits voter fraud?
Not everybody votes every race on the ballot.
For once, Ohio comes out smelling like a rose. EVERY statewide office went Republican, as did both chambers of the state legislature and 13 of the 18 US House seats.
You know, that might be a very effective and potent weapon(especially during political years): the use of tourist and consumer boycotts of states where such fraud is rampant. I had thought last night that I would never got to Las Vegas ever because of the fraud now! Hary Reid can employ the out of work casino workers!
If Rory Reid captured 298,170 VOTES ( 41.61%) running for governor we can assume those voters also voted for Harry Reid. So where did Harry find 63,485 votes? And on that same thread, did 382,350 people decided to vote for (R)Sandoval for Governor but 61,354 people changed their minds on Angle for Reid and more of the same? Something is stinking to me.
Looking at this map, it is clear that most of America is "red" now. If you look carefully at all the blue spots (other than CA & the N.E.) you can see that most of those spots represent union enclaves. WV has that blue area in the southern mining counties. Detroit area is blue, etc. We will never get America back until we destroy the unions.
I agree, i think that Reid stole Nevada outright
There were irregularities reported from the begining in early voting where votes for Angle were being counted as a Reid vote. Not to mention SEIU was in charge of the machines.
Someone should launch an investigation and have at it.
There is enough evidence to start one I am sure.
Proceed with criminal charges of tampering, fraud .. whatever applies .. throw the book at them
Split-ticket voting MIGHT explain it; because in both states the margins of the winning side, though reversed by party, were very close, by percentage.
The WV Dim Senate winning margin represented about 10.5% of the votes for Senator and the WV GOP winning margin in the House races was about 10.5% of the votes in those races.
The NV Dim Senate winning margin represented about 6% of the votes for Senator and the NV GOP winning margin in the House races was about 6% of the votes in those races.
Split votes could account for it, on a statistical basis, with voting anomalies accounting for the percentage of votes on the winning side between the Senate and House races in both states not matching exactly.
One of the biggest anomalies is that in both states more actual total votes were counted for the Senate races than were counted in the House races (4,274 in WV and 8,755 in NV).
Although the winning margin in the Senate races was bigger than that anomaly in both states (the total vote anomaly between Senate and House races), it does beg the question: Were there “extra” votes recorded in the Senate races, or were there votes missing (not counted) in the House races, or, if no votes were either extra or missing, then is a ballot accepted/valid in either state when any one vote on the ballot is left off (in my state believe the entire ballot is not counted).
I thought I would be happy today, no so. I fear the “lame duck” congress.
“When I looked at the county return for Nevada, Clark County (Las Vegas) overwhelmingly carried Reid for the whole state.”
Which makes me think of a great Constitutional amendment for the election of Federal Senators, so that the winner more truly represents more of “the state” not simply more “bodies in the state”: make the winner the candidate that “wins” the most counties in the state (thus “elected” by more villages, towns and cities - more “districts” in the state).
Can't a Republican House of Representatives impeach a U.S. Senator, if investigation shows bigtime vote fraud and SEIU complicity?
Sure the Dims would vote party-line for their leader in a Senate trial ..... but dozens of them would have to show themselves as lockstep Party automatons and supporters of corruption, and a corrupt leader, mere months before defending their seats in the 2012 elections.
Thoughts, anyone?
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