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VANITY: Split Ticket or Voter Fraud in WV and NV

Posted on 11/03/2010 10:07:40 AM PDT by The Political genius

Forgive me if this has already been covered in one of the previous threads but this is just too screwy for me to digest!

Ok, just trying to make some sense of this nonsense in West Virginia and Nevada from last night. So I was crunching numbers from the GOP tide in both states from the House Races vs The Senate Race! Here is what I came up with.

WV:

Manchin: 281,661.....Raese: 227,960

3 House seats: (R) 279,686..... (D) 225,651

NV:

Reed: 361,655.....Angle: 320,996

3 House seats:(R) 356,909..... (D) 316,877

Really??? Maybe it's just me, but I find it hard to believe that many folks would split their tickets!!

Am I wrong???


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KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; electionfraud; votefraud; voterfraud
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To: firelight
We have a choice of paper ballots or machines. At my precinct, I only saw 1 out of 15 using the machine. People waited to use the two tables for paper!

My neighbor is a Dim. He was not planning to vote until he discovered he could cancel mine! I live in Hampshire County, and R's did well! In addition, David McKinley took over a former D seat inCongress (WV-1).

Manchin wooed a lot of people with promises of independence. Yeah, right! He had lots of visits and help from TRUMKA and his unions hordes!!!

42 posted on 11/03/2010 10:56:20 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Faith is putting all your eggs in God's basket, then counting your blessings before they hatch.)
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To: shoedog
Nevada, that has fruad written all over.

It's not the nature of the evidence but the seriousness of the charge, right?

The evidence suggests you are wrong.  Reid won areas where the population centers are.  Angle carried areas where the population is sparse.  Angle got votes in the desert, literally.

43 posted on 11/03/2010 10:58:24 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: pnh102

You have that right but the real reason Manchin won was two fold. Personal attacks on Raese did the vast majority of damage. Raese didn’t run up Manchin’s negatives. He stayed on message till the end but I heard some of the nasty class warfare commercials against Raese and unfortunately they worked.


44 posted on 11/03/2010 10:58:24 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Maelstorm
You have that right but the real reason Manchin won was two fold. Personal attacks on Raese did the vast majority of damage. Raese didn’t run up Manchin’s negatives. He stayed on message till the end but I heard some of the nasty class warfare commercials against Raese and unfortunately they worked.

Manchin caste himself as a Conservative, like with his NRA endorsement ad with him shooting the cap and trade bill with a shotgun.  Manchin is a popular governor.

45 posted on 11/03/2010 11:01:02 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: The Political genius

Manchin ran as Ronald Reagan II


46 posted on 11/03/2010 11:01:49 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: samtheman
The number of ballots don’t even match up.

Additional candidates in the House races.

47 posted on 11/03/2010 11:03:47 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: The Political genius

Minnesota is also suspect: GOP takes control over both state senate and house for first time in ages (and a long-time Dem loses in US congress)- and yet Dem Mark Dayton supposedly leads in the Governor’s race by one point.


49 posted on 11/03/2010 11:21:49 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: The Political genius
Three counties outvoted the other 14...

Rural areas outvoted by city folks?

Or is it that the relative anonymity of an urban environment permits voter fraud?

50 posted on 11/03/2010 11:35:13 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: samtheman
The number of ballots don’t even match up.

Not everybody votes every race on the ballot.

51 posted on 11/03/2010 11:46:27 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Qbert

For once, Ohio comes out smelling like a rose. EVERY statewide office went Republican, as did both chambers of the state legislature and 13 of the 18 US House seats.


52 posted on 11/03/2010 11:52:16 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: OrangeHoof

You know, that might be a very effective and potent weapon(especially during political years): the use of tourist and consumer boycotts of states where such fraud is rampant. I had thought last night that I would never got to Las Vegas ever because of the fraud now! Hary Reid can employ the out of work casino workers!


53 posted on 11/03/2010 12:25:49 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (True enlightenment occurs when one discovers just how much like God, one is NOT!)
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To: The Political genius

If Rory Reid captured 298,170 VOTES ( 41.61%) running for governor we can assume those voters also voted for Harry Reid. So where did Harry find 63,485 votes? And on that same thread, did 382,350 people decided to vote for (R)Sandoval for Governor but 61,354 people changed their minds on Angle for Reid and more of the same? Something is stinking to me.


54 posted on 11/03/2010 12:26:32 PM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: buccaneer81

Looking at this map, it is clear that most of America is "red" now. If you look carefully at all the blue spots (other than CA & the N.E.) you can see that most of those spots represent union enclaves. WV has that blue area in the southern mining counties. Detroit area is blue, etc. We will never get America back until we destroy the unions.

55 posted on 11/03/2010 12:27:27 PM PDT by WVNan (>)
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To: ColdOne

I agree, i think that Reid stole Nevada outright
There were irregularities reported from the begining in early voting where votes for Angle were being counted as a Reid vote. Not to mention SEIU was in charge of the machines.

Someone should launch an investigation and have at it.
There is enough evidence to start one I am sure.

Proceed with criminal charges of tampering, fraud .. whatever applies .. throw the book at them


56 posted on 11/03/2010 1:52:05 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: The Political genius

Split-ticket voting MIGHT explain it; because in both states the margins of the winning side, though reversed by party, were very close, by percentage.

The WV Dim Senate winning margin represented about 10.5% of the votes for Senator and the WV GOP winning margin in the House races was about 10.5% of the votes in those races.

The NV Dim Senate winning margin represented about 6% of the votes for Senator and the NV GOP winning margin in the House races was about 6% of the votes in those races.

Split votes could account for it, on a statistical basis, with voting anomalies accounting for the percentage of votes on the winning side between the Senate and House races in both states not matching exactly.

One of the biggest anomalies is that in both states more actual total votes were counted for the Senate races than were counted in the House races (4,274 in WV and 8,755 in NV).

Although the winning margin in the Senate races was bigger than that anomaly in both states (the total vote anomaly between Senate and House races), it does beg the question: Were there “extra” votes recorded in the Senate races, or were there votes missing (not counted) in the House races, or, if no votes were either extra or missing, then is a ballot accepted/valid in either state when any one vote on the ballot is left off (in my state believe the entire ballot is not counted).


57 posted on 11/03/2010 2:09:59 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Munz

I thought I would be happy today, no so. I fear the “lame duck” congress.


58 posted on 11/03/2010 2:23:12 PM PDT by ColdOne (November 2,2010 A wipeout!!!!! Why does 0 not like Slurpee's?? anyone know?)
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To: 1_Of_We

“When I looked at the county return for Nevada, Clark County (Las Vegas) overwhelmingly carried Reid for the whole state.”

Which makes me think of a great Constitutional amendment for the election of Federal Senators, so that the winner more truly represents more of “the state” not simply more “bodies in the state”: make the winner the candidate that “wins” the most counties in the state (thus “elected” by more villages, towns and cities - more “districts” in the state).


59 posted on 11/03/2010 2:24:19 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Jvette
Reid won. He will serve another 6 years, unless God decides otherwise.

Can't a Republican House of Representatives impeach a U.S. Senator, if investigation shows bigtime vote fraud and SEIU complicity?

Sure the Dims would vote party-line for their leader in a Senate trial ..... but dozens of them would have to show themselves as lockstep Party automatons and supporters of corruption, and a corrupt leader, mere months before defending their seats in the 2012 elections.

Thoughts, anyone?

60 posted on 11/03/2010 2:35:29 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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