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To: allmendream
You also get an 'A' for obscuring and blurring.

and he would not be of our “Kind” according to the asinine argument that to actually be American one must be descended of the Europeans who settled and founded the nation.

Our "Kind"? LoL!

No he meant this 'Kind'

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The meaning of "Kind" as in,

"native, indigenous, inborn, natural, KIND-red, allied ...to be born."


If a person of Chinese descent is born of American citizen parents in America, a citizen at birth, a natural born citizen - despite having foreign citizenship ALSO at birth - then why the argument about 0bama’s British citizenship at birth through his Kenyan father?

It matters not a bit if by foreign law an American citizen at birth is granted citizenship, it only matters if by American law that they are an American citizen at birth.

Obama would be a first generation citizen per 14th Amendment, [only a jus soli citizen] if he was born inside the US because his British/Kenyan father gave him a foreign citizenship at birth. Obama Sr. had no US citizenship or did he have a permanent residence inside the United States. He went to school here and left. This is a patriarchal world were children not only follow their fathers in name but in citizenship and in cultural KINDship.

The hypothetical Chinese law you paint would not effect the natural born citizenship status of US citizens who were born in the US and had citizen parents at birth - that is from the 2nd generation (multi-generational) and beyond.

If British law didn't grant 0bama British citizenship at birth, you would STILL insist that he isn't an NBC because he needed two citizen parents.

Huh? LoL! Are you trying to say that if his father would be stateless? Obama Sr. was born outside the US as a foreigner.

So why make the argument when it is so transparently false and makes subject instead of sovereign American law?

Answered in spades in the 4th and 5th paragraphs above this line.

122 posted on 11/04/2010 8:20:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Under American law this is not a patriarchal world. Now you are arguing that it is through the father? I thought it had to be both parents? Any argument will do in a pinch I suppose.

If British and or Kenyan law did not recognize citizenship of children born to their citizens abroad, then your entire argument about the necessity of 0bama being a dual citizen at birth for his ineligibility falls apart. Thus you make American law subject to foreign law in an area where it is sovereign.

I have obscured and blurred nothing. You started out with a lie saying I was injecting race into this when I was not the one making the argument about the necessity of being of European descent to be American or White to be President; I responded to it. You start out with a lie and then go on to say that I am “also” obscuring and bluring. At least you admitted that you and your tag team partner are doing the tango around the issue without actually confronting it.

Amusing!

123 posted on 11/04/2010 9:53:09 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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