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Whoa...Arabs Torture People?
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-22-10 | Curt

Posted on 10/22/2010 5:37:13 PM PDT by Starman417

Is this supposed to be some kind of October surprise? First the Obama camp decides to trump up stories of foreign money coming into Republican coffers....yawn. Now they (oh wait, it was wikileaks, not the Democrats.....yeaaaaah) get the Iraq war back into the news.

My question....what did Obama know and when did he know it?

A frago is a “fragmentary order” which summarises a complex requirement. This one, issued in June 2004, about a year after the invasion of Iraq, orders coalition troops not to investigate any breach of the laws of armed conflict, such as the abuse of detainees, unless it directly involves members of the coalition. Where the alleged abuse is committed by Iraqi on Iraqi, “only an initial report will be made … No further investigation will be required unless directed by HQ”
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Numerous logs show individual members of the coalition making genuine attempts to stop the abuse. Since 2006 the coalition has had military transition teams, known as Mitts, working alongside Iraqi military units; and police transition teams, PTTs, embedded with local police. These teams are recorded on multiple occasions making unannounced spot checks at Iraqi security bases and finding torture in progress. “Captain Walker and 1st Lieutenant Ziemba … caught Captain Hassan and Sgt Alaa by surprise … In the office there was what appeared to be a battery with open ended wires … Before entering the office, Capt Walker and 1Lt Siemba heard what sounded like an individual being hit and moaning. The detainee was sitting in the centre of the room sobbing. They stopped the suspected abuse.”

Since June of 2004, the date Iraq became a sovereign nation, the US no longer controlled the security forces so was not obligated to police them. Many news organizations and lefty's are writing that we looked the other way but the leaked documents show the opposite. Our forces intervened when discovered and reported them.

American soldiers, however, often intervened. During a visit to a police unit in Ramadi, an American soldier entered a cell after hearing screams and found two badly dehydrated detainees with bruises on their bodies. He had them transferred out of Iraqi custody.

In August 2006, an American sergeant in Ramadi heard whipping noises in a military police station and walked in on an Iraqi lieutenant using an electrical cable to slash the bottom of a detainee’s feet. The American stopped him, but later he found the same Iraqi officer whipping a detainee’s back.Read the Document »

One beaten detainee said in 2005 that “when the Marines finally took him, he was treated very well, and he was thankful and happy to see them.”

The same article does note however that the documents are disturbing, not just because of the violence, but because the security forces are central to Obama's plan to abandon Iraq.

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I tell you what the worst will be, and it will be the fault of wikileaks. All out chaos and the blood will be on their hands.

"We know terrorist organizations have been mining the leaked Afghan documents for information to use against us and this Iraq leak is more than four times as large. By disclosing such sensitive information, WikiLeaks continues to put at risk the lives of our troops, their coalition partners and those Iraqis and Afghans working with us," Lapan said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: abuse; iraq; wikileak

1 posted on 10/22/2010 5:37:19 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417
I actually don't think they even have an "October surprise", they're just trying to fabricate one out of nothing...you know, like obama entire administration.

If they had anything obama and his moose wouldn't be frantically traversing the country to find democrat hotspots in which to stage photo-opps...hell, they're even hiring actors to "act" like they like him...but why not? He just the "acting" president.

They were so not ready for this...

DemAct


2 posted on 10/22/2010 5:42:26 PM PDT by FrankR (You are only obligated to obama to the extent you accept his handouts.)
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To: Starman417

Just Moslims being Moslim. Mirroring MadMo’s antics. Monkey See - Monkey Do.

Don’t believe me, just watch the behavior of the Palisimians.


3 posted on 10/22/2010 5:52:18 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Starman417
(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...

Why not post the whole content here?

Is there bad language? Porn? Devil worship?

4 posted on 10/22/2010 6:12:09 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Starman417
I would post the list of muslim atrocities of the last 20 years, but I won't because :

1 -- It would require many web pages
2 -- Most people's eyes glaze over after the first few hundred items.
3 -- The muslim apologists, or terminally ignorant, simply don't think all of it matters.
4 -- The insane actually believe that if we are nice to crazed primitive killers, they can be persuaded to leap several centuries into the present.

So I won't bother.

5 posted on 10/22/2010 6:57:18 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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