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Falcon Lake: Case Closed? Five Remaining Oddities In A Very Weird Case
Houston Press Blogs ^ | Fri., Oct. 15 2010 | John Nova Lomax

Posted on 10/16/2010 5:27:24 PM PDT by Reeses

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To: Krankor

Well greetings. Nice to find someone wanting to just...well speculate.

I’ll tell you, at first I thought this was a case of insurance fraud. It might still be. Maybe her hubby’s still alive. They do know Mexico. She comes up with this story, collect insurance, they disappear somewhere deep in Mexico and live wealthily ever after.

Problem is I’m sure no sane insurance company’s going to pay out big bucks, at least any time soon, based on this weird and questionable story. Still people scam things without many brains so...could be.

Of late I’m thinking that maybe THEY were involved with Mexican drug gangs of some sort, maybe they want the Mexican drug gangs to think the guy is dead.

But that makes no sense because, well SHE’S still around.

SHE could have shot her husband in the back of the head, maybe did it on purpose on the Mexican side of this lake because she knew nobody would go looking.

If all else fails, I suppose it’s possible some Mexican drug gang shot the guy in the back of the head then came and scooped up his body and jet ski real quick.


61 posted on 10/16/2010 7:05:23 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Jude in WV

Oh dear Lord....now SCOTT PETERSON is innocent.

They had enough evidence on him to convict ten people.


62 posted on 10/16/2010 7:06:35 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Fishtalk

I think you’re either blotto this evening, or maybe just phocking nuts......your post makes zero sense. Sleep tight, amigo.


63 posted on 10/16/2010 7:07:36 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Obsessed.


64 posted on 10/16/2010 7:08:05 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Fishtalk

tell me how you think he did it.
i don’t think he was smart enough to pull off the crime without leaving a shred of evidence.


65 posted on 10/16/2010 7:09:09 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: JRandomFreeper

We need to bring back jury nullification. Just one more victim of the civil rights era.

Sucks when the guilty walk free but our current court system is far less just than it used to be.


66 posted on 10/16/2010 7:10:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: ErnBatavia
I think you’re either blotto this evening, or maybe just phocking nuts......your post makes zero sense. Sleep tight, amigo.

They call you names. So intelligent, so honest and fair.

I rest my case.

I'm outta here.

67 posted on 10/16/2010 7:10:52 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Fishtalk
Nice to find someone wanting to just...well speculate.

You don't speculate when a person has died and you need to find the SOB that did it. You find the path, and you follow it. The answer appears at the end.

The only other way that works is in books (Murder Mysteries) and TV (CSI, and others). Where an author sets it up, and works it backwards.

Fiction isn't reality.

Come live with me for a few weeks, and we'll experience some reality. You'll see how blood stains actually work, when you help deal with feral hogs.

Phah! You are a yankee wannabe. Wouldn't last a few days in the woods down here.

And don't have a clue how to follow a game trail. The big hint is that you don't start with where you think they are.

/johnny

68 posted on 10/16/2010 7:21:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Reeses

Look, you’re the guy who posted “She was sniffing her nose in one of her interviews like she did a line of coke”, and folks who know about that phenomenon also usually know all about adderal.


69 posted on 10/16/2010 7:23:40 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Reeses
JFK's car didn't suddenly slow down ~ as a Freeper right before your post explained what happened to the jetski when the man was hit.

Remember, JFK was NOT driving the car~

70 posted on 10/16/2010 7:26:51 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Reeses

falcon lake


71 posted on 10/16/2010 7:27:12 PM PDT by TNoldman (Call 1911 not 911!)
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To: Fishtalk
Ahh, a fellow speculator. There's nothing I enjoy more than speculating on an odd criminal case. Believe me, I'm no expert, but I love to contrive theories about why this or that happened. I blame my fascination on those old Basil Rathbone Sherlock Holmes movies. I must confess, I never believed her initial account.I thought she did the old boy in. Later, I gravitated to the insurance scam angle. They lived in Mexico and only recently returned to the States- only to be murdered on a simple sightseeing expedition. The fact they seemed so intent on being noticed sent out alarm bells. Now the drug involvement scenario seems fairly plausible. I mean, if they skipped out on a debt or were invading another cartel's turf, what better warning than to kill the husband. Or, maybe it was just a bunch of Mexican drunks who saw a nice looking blonde and shot the husband to grab the wife who managed to luckily escape. Still, using Basil Rathbone's spirit as a guide, I go with the insurance fraud- but my Ouija board has been wrong before.
72 posted on 10/16/2010 7:27:50 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: muawiyah
Unless they are wannabe PIs.

/johny

73 posted on 10/16/2010 7:28:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Fishtalk
I'm outta here.

Probably just as well for you. Nitey.

74 posted on 10/16/2010 7:33:25 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: muawiyah
muawiyah, you're a very smart long time Freeper that I respect. I don't know how I ended up opposite you on this issue. I have known coke heads and how they sniff their nose, and she's done it just like them. I could easily look up what adderal is but I have no interest. Tiffany Hartley is being deceptive, which is why I don't believe her. She's not telling the real story. Which of her stories do you believe: he was shot in the back of the head, in the front of his forehead, or in his neck? This is just the most blatant example of her shifty story. There are many.
75 posted on 10/16/2010 7:35:24 PM PDT by Reeses (Now is the autumn of our discontent.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
You don't speculate when a person has died and you need to find the SOB that did it.

See, that's the thing. When Tiffany made her 911 call, I can't recall she was desperate to have someone come and try to HELP her injured husband. I mean, she wasn't really sure he was dead.

She seemed to be reporting the incident, rather than desperately seeking immediate assistance.

I would have been begging the authorities to immediately go after him...EVEN IF he was on the Mexican side.

She should have give them the option of saying "no"..

76 posted on 10/16/2010 7:37:54 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: muawiyah

There is another reason JFK’s shooting is a bad example. A detailed computer analysis of the Zapruder film shows that his head did start to go forward from the impact of the bullet. But he was in a car moving forward and a moment later the guy who was driving it accelerated that momentum even more. With little or no control over his body after the moment of impact that left him a limp rag doll and the forward momentum of the car cause his head to whip back. It wasn’t bullet ballistics that caused that backward motion.


77 posted on 10/16/2010 7:40:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Krankor

That Jrandomfreeper fellow says we have no right to speculate.

Except damn, I thought this was America, Freespeech and all. It’s not like I’m an investigator or on the jury or anything. The last place you’d think someone would be condemning free speech would be on FreeRepublic.

And calling you names!

But I’ll respond to you only because you seem to think like I am.

My ouija board’s been wrong before, more than I like to admit.

But I’ll join you on the insurance fraud thing. I think her husband is still alive, I think their plan is to try and collect insurance money, I think they plan on hiding in Mexico.

I don’t think for a minute it will work but there does seem to be some form to the actions. They have this couple on video BEFORE they even entered the water. This proves they were together. I don’t know the circumstances of why they were stopped. Do you?

This alleged witness....strange. I wondered why this guy was not all showing up on the View, claiming his or her fifteen minutes. The obsessed ones say it’s because the witness is afraid that the Mexican drug Lords will kill him if his identity is known.

I guess that’s possible but.....strange is all I can say.

They don’t sound like any great Einsteins, those two. For now I’m thinking they thought they could pull some kind of scam, collect insurance, although they obviously didn’t know much about it. Insurance companies don’t just fork up big buck payoffs without a body...takes many years.

I also heard there was blood on her life vest....her husband’s blood. If so, well THAT’s an interesting development.

I’d also like to know what kind of life insurance that guy might have had on his life. I’m thinking someone somewhere has researched that factoid.


78 posted on 10/16/2010 7:41:25 PM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Reeses
Bullets tumble and break apart. You can hit a guy's ring finger and that round can bounce around in his arm and end up coming out the other side in his guts ~ all depends on what round, how the arm is aligned, and so on.

When they break up they do so at quite high speeds, so pieces bouncing off bone might seem to be entering the neck, shoulder, gut or whatever.

Her descriptions are quite representative of well-known injuries from the type of rounds used in warfare.

BTW, you get that information in your Infantry Basic about week 3 or 4 ~ usually just before you you start getting graded on hitting targets.

That suggests that the pirates (which you probably still think to be hypothetical) were using military grade weapons and rounds.

The reason you are ON THE OTHER SIDE in this one is that the woman's testimony sounds like the sort of thing that would happen if you saw a person hit with a high velocity round from a military firearm ~ and maybe hit with several rounds although my money is on the bullet bouncing and breaking rather than any automatic fire being involved ~ but I can't rule it out.

79 posted on 10/16/2010 7:44:56 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Fishtalk
NOTE: Here in the DC area we've had witnesses in federal court trials in downtown DC murdered by gang members right there at courthouse.

No doubt the Mexican narcotrafficantes are as bad.

Any witnesses would be well advised to keep their identities secret in this case.

80 posted on 10/16/2010 7:48:29 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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