Posted on 10/15/2010 5:30:20 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
Did state accuse wrong guy in Oath Keeper case? (Baby Cheyenne NH). Gag order prevents the witnesses of a court hearing from revealing what happened in there... but did the prompt return of Baby Cheyenne to her parents have something to do with mistaken identity on some issues?
Where the dickens is the press on this? Isn’t there a newspaper or TV station in New Hampshire willing to tell people what is going on? You would think this would be a big story, locally at least.
Hang on. There are stories and threads on FR that seem to show the parents are indeed kooks. Don’t believe everything this noob ‘redstate’ dishes out.
You are a damn fool. And now you're admitting what has been alleged about the parents.
You may be on the wrong forum, noob.
I am afraid I have to disagree with you. I've had to photograph child abuse as an Air Force photographer, and there are some things that very definately demand government intervention. Irish was accused of child abuse, membership in a militia called Oath Keepers, and possession of firearms.
Only the first is a reason (of those given) for possibly taking his child, and then only with serious substantiation. Oath Keepers isn't a militia and even if it was there is a right of association. Possession of firearms is a right under our Constitution, and IIRC, the NH constitution, as well. Those should NOT have been used as justification for taking the child, and the people who made the statements, and the ones who accepted them as just cause should be next in court.
There are several threads here on FR on the subject, btw. From some of what I've read in news articles posted on those threads, I expected the abuse allegation to be substantiated. Doesn't appear to have happened. There is also another Jonathan Irish out there. This kid's dad. They are not friendly to one another. Might make it more difficult to determine who is really at fault.
The dad has concerns about his son, and has also had assault charged against him for an attack on his son. IF, mind you, I've managed to keep all this crud straight. Best you check it out yourself. “Oath Keepers baby” will probably work if you want to use the search function.
I am afraid I have to disagree with you. I've had to photograph child abuse as an Air Force photographer, and there are some things that very definately demand government intervention. Irish was accused of child abuse, membership in a militia called Oath Keepers, and possession of firearms.
Only the first is a reason (of those given) for possibly taking his child, and then only with serious substantiation. Oath Keepers isn't a militia and even if it was there is a right of association. Possession of firearms is a right under our Constitution, and IIRC, the NH constitution, as well. Those should NOT have been used as justification for taking the child, and the people who made the statements, and the ones who accepted them as just cause should be next in court.
There are several threads here on FR on the subject, btw. From some of what I've read in news articles posted on those threads, I expected the abuse allegation to be substantiated. Doesn't appear to have happened. There is also another Jonathan Irish out there. This kid's dad. They are not friendly to one another. Might make it more difficult to determine who is really at fault.
The dad has concerns about his son, and has also had assault charged against him for an attack on his son. IF, mind you, I've managed to keep all this crud straight. Best you check it out yourself. “Oath Keepers baby” will probably work if you want to use the search function.
LOL all the sources i post are pro-the parents. Ridley is a good source of non-liberal media.
I know. I read and participated. There are other articles, some from conservative sources that paint a different picture.
And I saw how you handled yourself on other threads. Stormfront might appeal to you.
BTW, citing and supporting Alex Jones will get you booted from FR in some cases. And you did just that.
He had his child taken away b/c of his association w/ oathkeepers. That’s all we need to know.
I never cited Alex Jones. I just said SOMETIMES he has good articles and good perspectives.
I’ve seen it. I’ve also seen some discussion on the change in fonts & spacing, and forms of punctuation. It may not be an accurate copy of what was actually submitted. Or it may. I’ve had Word do stuff like that to me in the middle of a document.
Did you read the rest of the document? No, of course you didn’t. Stephanie Taylor has two other kids who are under scrutiny by the authorities.
I just asked the mods to take that post dowm. It’s an Alex Jones link. Verboten.
There are other sources.
Some are in this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608172/posts
And I believe I posted a link to another thread in that one somewhere. Maybe this will help some of the overwrought emotionalism to cool off a bit.
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I did a google search and found a blog which said that the parents are unmarried, and that the woman had two earlier children who had been taken away from her.
Whether that is true or not, I don’t know.
This is good enough for me:
From 2005
http://archive.seacoastonline.com/2005news/hampton/03252005/news/71931.htm
SEABROOK - A Seabrook teenager is scheduled for a probable cause hearing on April 4 after being charged with sexual assault on a 14-year-old girl.
Jonathan Irish, 18, of 620 Lafayette Road, is being held at Rockingham County Jail without bail pending a psychological evaluation. He was arraigned Tuesday in Hampton District Court and is scheduled for a probable cause hearing at the court on April 4 at 11 a.m.
Police arrested Irish on Monday after going to his house for alleged illegal drug activity, according to an affidavit filed with the court by Seabrook Prosecutor Scott Mendes.
Irish allegedly told Sgt. Dana Bedell and Officer Frank Brown that two juvenile females in the apartment were doing drugs. The officers interviewed the girls, smelling the odor of burned marijuana on them, according to Mendes. One of the juveniles, who was 14, told police she and Irish were boyfriend and girlfriend and had sexual intercourse at least 10 times since they started dating, according to the affidavit. Police took her into protective custody.
The other girl, who was 17, was released.
Irish said he knew how old the girl was, according to court records.
33 posted on 10/11/2010 2:53:06 PM by freedomwarrior998
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