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THE COMING WAVE (An interview with Mother Abigail - The Conclusion)
FluTrackers ^ | 10-12-10 | Original Work

Posted on 10/13/2010 5:16:24 PM PDT by James Oscar



This is the final chapter in my series of interviews with the enigmatic Mother Abigail.

It has been the most challenging project of my career. It has also been the most rewarding.

I hope that you enjoy the four works and I will briefly recap the first three for those who are just joining us.





TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: motherabigail; virology
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To: James Oscar

November 25th, 2010
Carson City, Nevada

I arrived at MAs in the early afternoon after dropping off Kate at her home. It is brutally cold but there is no new snow. I have a ton of mixed feelings about today. First it is good to share the day with MA and I have grown to love our time in her study. But also, I am a little reluctant to breech the subjects we have, thus far, downplayed.

I brought a gorgeous pecan pie as a gift along with a bottle of Frangelico (sort of traditional with us). MA was sitting in the study as usual while her housekeeper finished the meal.

MA: James it is so good to see you, thanks for coming.

J: Would not have missed it for the world MA.

MA: Would you care for a cocktail or coffee?

J: I would love a Crown on the rocks if you have it. Or any whiskey would be fine.

MA: Crown it is then.

She left to go in the kitchen and fix our drinks, MA almost always has Frangelico and tea, as I settled into the big chair by the fire.

While it is the cowboy lifestyle that has most defined my life and career - there will always be a deep appreciation for the rock solid life of others. Here in this womb of warmth and comfort, a man such as myself cannot help but wonder how it might have been.

A different decision here, a little more patience there - could I have ever ended up like this wonderful lady? Sitting in a family homestead, content with my lives’s work and reading in the afternoon before the fire.

Nice thoughts on a Thanksgiving day - and without a lot of recrimination. It is what it is. I have long ago found peace with my choices - but it is nice to daydream now and then.

MA: What a great day for a big fire.

J: I was just thinking the same thing MA.


41 posted on 11/30/2010 11:54:50 AM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

November 25th, 2010
Carson City, Nevada

MA and I had a little small talk before the meal but it was just casual. We ate in the dining room with the drapes all open and the back yard looking like a Hollywood set.

My mind tended to wander a bit as we ate, I love good food as much as anyone but there was an element of surrealism to the entire event. In a week or so I would be back in California, either writing on some of the “real” jobs that I have waiting or just decompressing after such a long and involved work.

Also for the last few days I have been trying to decide how far to push MA on her views. I most certainly do not wish to be rude, but I have promised too many people that I will explore (on a deeper level) her concept of the “Coming Wave”.

Because of the huge backlash from my last attempt to discuss the issue - I have simply avoided the hard questions.

That will not be an option today.


42 posted on 11/30/2010 12:27:43 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

November 29th, 2010
Carson City, Nevada

When I think back to the first article I posted in this series a few posts seem to stick in my mind as motivating me to continue.

So today I went back and copied a couple - just to bring us full circle. Before I continue with the discussion of Thanksgiving Day here are a few of the posts from my readers in the summer of 2009. To be fair these posts were after a very long and tedious introduction to MA and her ideas that, largely, failed to describe a very complex woman.

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July 24th, 2009, 06:49 PM

Re: THE COMING WAVE (An interview with Mother Abigail)

I remember when you posted something like this on CE 1 to 2 years ago.
It went on and on and you never did get to the end of the story.
Good writers are much more concise. Just my pov.

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July 24th, 2009, 10:28 PM

Re: THE COMING WAVE (An interview with Mother Abigail)

James S, I am really enjoying your story. It’s refreshing to hear in these times where people seem to be obsessed with cold, “concise” numbers and demanding predictions about how many people are gonna die. MA is using her experiences to tell us to get ready, in my opinion, and you are trying to learn what you can so you can pass it along, in a more humanized way. I am tired of listening to politicized rhetoric. Thank you.

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July 25th, 2009, 11:12 PM

Re: THE COMING WAVE (An interview with Mother Abigail)

I am fascinated! Such a treasure of wisdom (whether or not you agree with any particular religious perspective).

Please ... continue quickly!!! I await your next chapter.

BTW, speaking as a professional editor ... you are an excellent and gifted writer. A joy to read your work!

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July 14th, 2009, 11:35 PM

I would also like to get to the interview part.

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http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114481&page=2

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So that was the way it was. Mixed reactions, mixed expectations - and it is always like that.

Creating is not only a huge challenge but the greatest joy in my life......

James


43 posted on 11/30/2010 1:07:02 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: Judith Anne; OwenKellogg; vetvetdoug
November 25th, 2010
Carson City, Nevada

Back in MA’s study we added another log to her fireplace, broke out the Bailey's Irish Cream and relaxed completely.

J: MA you know that I am concluding my story about you with this interview, don't you?

MA: Yes of course.

J: You offered me the opportunity to ask any questions the last time we met, is that offer still good?

MA: Yes

J: Because we have become such friends I want you to know that if you elect to duck any of these questions it will be fine by me. It is not a matter of national security - it is just that my readers have been very specific about what they would like to know. Good by you?

MA: I have never been shy James.

J: Well MA I am not certain. But let me start by giving you the best regards of a poster named Judith Anne. She asked me to say Hi to you. I am not sure you remember but she was very active in the SARS threads.

MA: Of course I remember. Judith is a nurse and we once spoke about how my mother was a nurse as well. But it has been quite a bit of time since then. James, no one else knows this but she is also the one who encouraged me to post on FluTrackers - again it was in our past.

It is just lovely to hear from her.

J: I will tell her so MA.

J: There was no one else who asked me to offer any cordialities, however I do have a list of questions that they would like you to respond to.

MA: Let me go get the brownies and we can begin.

44 posted on 11/30/2010 3:06:00 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

Thank you very much, James.


45 posted on 11/30/2010 3:12:06 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: James Oscar
November 25th, 2010
Carson City, Nevada

As we sat eating brownies and sipping egg nog spiked with Bailey's the evening was getting late.

MA: Did you read Precognition like I asked?

J: Yes I read it several times and I must say MA that it is just all over the place. You used it to warn about SARS and you used it to post about Ebola over the years. There was a lot of back and forth with other posters about religion and stuff. But you used a lot of humor too.

It is a very cool thread because of the very long time line involved and all the people who seem to know you so well.

But MA I have no idea what the theme is if it isn't microbiology.

MA: James, it is just as advertised. When I titled the thread Precognition there was one snippet of a report about a strange pneumonia found in China.

I felt something very odd was afoot and had a very bad feeling about this bug.

It has been this way all my life. I do not consider it strange to have very strong feelings that later turn out to be true. It is part of my very being.

I assure you that there are others who can testify to their experience with hunches, feelings, foresight or precognition.

Thus it was with that thread. I took to the Internet to chronicle the events I felt were about to occur and when they did occur, I simply reported them.

I also opined on my feeling about the relationship to Ebola and fruit bats - which also proved true.

Precognition means only what it says - sometimes we know things are about to happen before they happen.

46 posted on 12/01/2010 2:01:12 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: flashbunny; glock rocks; henbane; tuna_battle_slight_return; Illbay; Chancellor Palpatine; ...

I have pinged you because you are a poster on MA’s Precognition thread - and I thought you might like to hear what she has to say about that posting.

James


47 posted on 12/01/2010 2:16:13 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

J: OK, well that is clear enough. Do you feel you leave yourself open to ridicule when you talk about things like this that are outside of science?

MA: Outside of science James? It is none of the sort - do you remember our conversation about the current evolutionary changes in man?

J: Not really.

MA: We have became the dominant species on earth due to our evolutionary advances in perception James. It is not even open to debate.

Our physical prowess and our motor skills are largely unremarkable and in many comparisons simply puny. No, it is our ability to look back in time and make predictions about the future that has fast tracked us to the crown of creation.


48 posted on 12/01/2010 2:26:56 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar
J: I know that it is the development of our mind that has separated us from the other primates, but I have never heard it described as perception.

MA: Not just perception, for their are many species with tools for perceiving the world that are superior to ours, sonar, heat sensors, extraordinary vision etc.

James it is the ability to time travel with our mind that has made all the difference.

J: Huh?

MA: We time travel with our mind. We look back over events and we see patterns, we then look forward in time and extrapolate those patterns to the future.

Almost all giant steps forward are creative leaps done within some deep thinkers mind and then transposed into our physical world.

Easy as pie. We use an ability that educators call abstract reasoning. For example, you are given a drawing on a piece of paper and asked if you fold this drawing here and here what do you get?

You fold that paper in your mind and look at the result. Abstract reasoning. A scientist sees a series of data points, correlates them in his mind and postulates about future outcomes. Nothing magical too it.

All our recent evolutionary advancements have been made possible by the prehensile mind.

Perception James. And like most abilities it is subject to the rules of intermediate expression. God's big sine wave.

Some individuals will be extraordinary mathematicians from an early age with a true gift for numbers, some will be largely unable to comprehend complex problems and most will fall in the middle.

It is the way of life. Perception is no different. We all have examples among the people who surround us. Some are highly perceptive of many things and some are not.

It is all science and it is all real.

49 posted on 12/01/2010 2:45:34 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

“...prehensile mind...” —I love it!


50 posted on 12/01/2010 2:47:58 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Judith Anne

I fully intend to steal that phrase....

LOL


51 posted on 12/01/2010 3:04:54 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

J: Fair enough. So you are saying that you were the first to post about SARS because you had a “feeling” that this would develop into a large problem?

MA: Yes

J: And this feeling, is it about lottery numbers, weather, elections etc.

MA: (Laughing), no James it is just about science. However I know where you are heading with that lottery business. I thought you had cut down on your gambling?

J: I have MA a lot. My first trip here to Nevada taught me some very expensive lessons.

J: How about you, do you still play the nickle slots?

MA: Religiously. And I have been doing quite well lately, thank you very much.

J: How much can you win with a nickel?

MA: Well it actually takes 5 nickles to be eligible for the jackpot. If you hit a royal flush then it is usually 2 to 3 hundred dollars, depending on how long it has been since it hit.

J: That is decent money.

MA: It is great fun for us old ladies and there is nothing better for clearing the mind. But in all honesty James, there are those times when I almost know that I am going to have a very good day on the slots.

J: I know that when I am unhappy I never win at poker.

MA: I understand.


52 posted on 12/01/2010 3:24:15 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar
Good evening. Very interesting.

How did I end up on your ping list?

5.56mm

53 posted on 12/01/2010 5:09:10 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Pelham; MissH
A few years back, there was a very odd outbreak of Marburg. Odd in that the transmission of the disease was not following its typical patterns, and that the fatality rate was much higher than normal.

There were a number of threads of people talking about it, and MA was on them a lot. These threads were so good there were researchers posting on it to bounce ideas off of people on occasion. Mother Abigail was one of those posters, and had some very interesting insights.

54 posted on 12/01/2010 6:27:20 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: M Kehoe

To: Mother Abigail
I’m sorry...
Em oh oh en spells...

5.56mm

72 posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 6:58:58 AM by M Kehoe
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You, Sir are one of the posters on one of the most famous threads ever posted on the Internet

James


55 posted on 12/01/2010 7:52:27 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: James Oscar

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2607033/posts?q=1&;page=1#2

For the ful history read this

James


56 posted on 12/01/2010 7:54:34 PM PST by James Oscar
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To: redgolum
Was the mystery of that Marburg outbreak ever solved?

These hemorrhagic fevers fascinate me at the same time they give me a first class case of the creeps. Always make me think of:

I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hell was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

57 posted on 12/01/2010 9:07:09 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: James Oscar

Hi James - can you keep me on the ping list as well - Thanks, MissH


58 posted on 12/01/2010 9:23:52 PM PST by MissH
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To: Pelham

I don’t think so, but then I was only following it on FR and the old site Current Events.


59 posted on 12/02/2010 4:43:21 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: James Oscar
8^)

5.56mm

60 posted on 12/02/2010 4:47:23 AM PST by M Kehoe
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