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To: Greenperson

You cite a ruling from a STATE court as the last word on this issue? And here I thought the Supreme Court of the United States interpreted the Constitution. Now that you’ve set us straight—that it’s actually the Indiana appeals court that determines what the Constitution means—I’ll have to rethink everything.


Sixth grade civics class students understand that US elections for president are conducted on a state by state basis with an accumulation of Electoral College votes from 50 states and the District of Columbia used to decide the winner.
If any state had invalidated Obama’s Electoral College votes on the basis that he was not a natural born citizen, that would have initiated a cascade of invalidations that would have deprived Obama of an Electoral College majority.

You must not be an American citizen, because even the dumbest of us citizens know that the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution clearly states that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Each STATE has the power to set its own election laws and it is usual and ordinary in America for issues to begin in the state courts and then move to the federal judiciary up to the Supreme Court however in the case of Ankeny et. al v The Governor of Indiana, there was an appeal to the Indiana Supreme Court and it was denied a hearing. There was no further attempt to appeal the case to the federal court, so the state court decision stands as the only adjudicated lawsuit challenging Barack Obama’s eligiblity to receive Electoral College votes as a natural born citizen with only one of his parents being a US citizen.


70 posted on 10/13/2010 4:02:07 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

jamese777 cited a ruling from a STATE appeals court in Indiana which made a statement about natural born citizenship. I reminded him that SCOTUS is the court of last resort in this country, especially with regard to interpreting the meaning of the Constitution. The Constitution is the supreme law of the Republic; no state appeals court opinion affects the entire nation. Indiana state courts interpret and apply STATE laws. Their decision may stand, but only in Indiana.


His response included, “Sixth grade civics class students understand that US elections for president are conducted on a state by state basis with an accumulation of Electoral College votes from 50 states and the District of Columbia used to decide the winner.”

Note how jamese777 not so deftly changes the subject. We were talking about whether a STATE appeals court is empowered to interpret the Constitution for the rest of the country. But jamese777 redirects to electoral college factoids. Irrelevant.

Note how jamese777 begins the typical Alinsky tactic of attacking and ridiculing the opponent, especially when the facts are not in his favor.

jamese777, I have an advanced university degree in science as well as two degrees in other fields. What’s your educational background? Did you take 6th-grade civics? If so, in what country?

jamese777 went on, “You must not be an American citizen, because even the dumbest of us citizens know that the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution clearly states that the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

The Tenth Amendment did not give state appeals courts the power to interpret the meaning of the Constitution for the rest of the nation. Are YOU an American citizen? I am. Natural born, too, btw. How about you?


77 posted on 10/14/2010 7:15:34 AM PDT by Greenperson
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