[Kleon]

FYI...Fremont's parents were NOT married, thus he was born illegitimate & the father's citizenship did NOT factor in.

Are you just making up a definition of natural born citizen as you go along? Because that's what it seems like.

[patlin]

Are you just making up a definition of natural born citizen as you go along? Because that's what it seems like.

Maybe you should open a book or 2 that was printed prior to 1900 sometime. Read the actual language of the laws of the time. Especially International Private Law regarding the nationality of a child born in wedlock & that of one born out of wedlock. How about natural law on the subject. John Locke could school you and he isn't that hard to read & understand.

Virginia citizenship law 1779

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a4_2_1s4.html

A treatise on the law of citizenship in the United States: treated historically By Prentiss Webster

http://books.google.com/books?id=ky-TxmjrU0YC&printsec=toc#v=onepage&q=illegitimate&f=false

A treatise on citizenship: by birth and by naturalization, with reference to ... By Alexander Porter Morse

http://books.google.com/books?pg=PR1&dq=A+treatise+on+Citizenship&id=GijrAAAAMAAJ&ots=O5wIOcJeT-#v=onepage&q=illegitimate&f=false

Cyclopedia of law and procedure, Volume 7 By William Mack, Howard Pervear Nash 1903

http://books.google.com/books?id=rHs8AAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=illegitimate&f=false

[patlin]

IOW...if it turns out Obama’s parents were not married, then it proves he is a NBC, but it also proves he is a colossal liar for political expediency, for his own personal political gain at the expense of the American citizenry.

But it doesn’t stop there. The passport records clearly show he was an Indonesian citizen & either upon his return to the US or upon his coming of age there must have been a formal act, formal paperwork filed renouncing the Indonesian citizenship & the reestablishment of the US citizenship status he held at birth. To date, this has not been established, thus we don't know what country he actually is a citizen of. Perkins v. Elg 1939

[patlin]

NBC if infact it is proven without a shadow of a doubt that he was actually born in one of the 50 US states.