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To: SeeSharp
It would be more true to say it depends on whether they are a statist or a libertarian. There are plenty of northerners who recognize the truth.

Nice strawman you built there -- you have to be either a statist who cares nothing for individual rights or a libertarian who only cares about individual license and to hell with everyone else.

Thankfully the Framers saw it differently when the created a Nation of laws under the Constitution. Lincoln did no differently in 1860 than Washington would have done in 1790, nor what any patriot President would do today. That is, preserve the Union under the Constitution.

It's the statists like Obama who care nothing about the Constitution and the spoiled libertarians (apparently you and others here among them) who want it their way or no way without regard for the Constitution, who are the problem.

Why don't you try Conservatisism for a change so that you can leave something worthwhile for your kids?

41 posted on 09/27/2010 2:07:50 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Time to Clean House.)
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To: Ditto
Thankfully the Framers saw it differently when the created a Nation of laws under the Constitution. Lincoln did no differently in 1860 than Washington would have done in 1790, nor what any patriot President would do today. That is, preserve the Union under the Constitution.

And what do you think Jefferson would have done?

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

BTW, the notion that Washington would have ever raised his hand against Virginia is simply laughable.

49 posted on 09/27/2010 2:15:41 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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