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The Great Birth Index Fiasco
http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/09/22/the-great-birth-index-fiasco/ ^ | 09-22-10 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 09/22/2010 11:52:14 AM PDT by butterdezillion

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More shenanigans from the HDOH.
1 posted on 09/22/2010 11:52:17 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Is there a point to all this?


2 posted on 09/22/2010 11:55:23 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: butterdezillion

a computer generated list is worthless and easily forged / falsified

and they know it

how about asking for 1959 or any other year? i bet they would have the hand-written index for those years


3 posted on 09/22/2010 11:58:02 AM PDT by sten
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To: butterdezillion

4 posted on 09/22/2010 11:59:29 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: humblegunner

Apparantly Obama is a Martian and therefore ineligible to hold the office that he was unfortunately elected to.


5 posted on 09/22/2010 12:00:03 PM PDT by Grunthor (Name one country with a muslim majority that doesn't have brutal, repressive laws.)
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To: humblegunner

Furtive behavior by the HDOH?


6 posted on 09/22/2010 12:00:38 PM PDT by Genoa (Put the kettle on!)
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To: humblegunner

Good luck ... and thank you for trying.


7 posted on 09/22/2010 12:02:21 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: butterdezillion

Shoot. I just added another link so people don’t have to read through the entire history in the first paragraph in order to see the HDOH’s final response saying they don’t have the handwritten index.


8 posted on 09/22/2010 12:02:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: humblegunner

The point is they are documentably lying in legal responses to me. Somebody who has the power to do a full legal investigation should find out exactly why.


9 posted on 09/22/2010 12:03:54 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Negate my post 7 ...

Good luck ... and thank you, butterdezillion, for trying.


10 posted on 09/22/2010 12:04:56 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: sten

There is pretty good evidence that they have falsified what they call the “1960-64 Birth Index” in two different places. Lord willing, I will post more about that soon.

So yes, it is easily falsified.

They won’t give the handwritten index for any other year, though, because that would show that they are treating the information surrounding Obama differently than everything else, and they have to hide that fact to (or at least try).

That’s why they won’t print out long-form BC’s. That’s why they won’t print out non-certified abbreviated certificates. That’s why they won’t print out letters of verification. All those things are required by statute or by UIPA, since the HDOH Administrative Rules say that records which may be released MUST be released.

They can’t break the law just for Obama, so they break the law for everybody. Cool, huh?


11 posted on 09/22/2010 12:09:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: OldNavyVet

Thanks for the correction. Though you might want to wish Humblegunner good luck too, if he wants to convince me that none of this matters. lol


12 posted on 09/22/2010 12:11:31 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
...and they allow the public to view index records in their office

Hasn't anyone done this?

13 posted on 09/22/2010 12:11:38 PM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd

Lots of people have done it. In March Obama’s name was not in what the HDOH called the 1960-64 birth index, but now it is. See http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/ya-cant-always-get-what-ya-want/

There are other anomalies too. In the most recent image of the 1960-64 birth index, notice that right above “Obama II, Barack Hussein” is “Obado, Duplicate Mae”. There is no other Mae Obado though. The name which is at the place that Mae Obado would be if there was a duplicate record for her.... is “Obama II, Barack Hussein”.


14 posted on 09/22/2010 12:17:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
You are being sandbagged. Also gaslighted. Sandbagging is setting a trap for persons by going slow, where it encourages of forces them to go slow, or to think that that is as fast as you can go. It is an exhausting tactic, one in which the person(s) applying it rely on their opponents lack of ability to persevere or to keep from quitting or self-destructive behavior out of frustration.

This site calls it "passing the buck" or "multiplying procedures and paperwork", and even uses the term sand-bagging, but in a more narrow way than that which I've heard used. Burying someone in paperwork also would be part of sand-bagging, as are deliberately "mistaken" responses, or "losing" correspondence.

The gaslighting is them constantly changing things on you. That's a technique of attempting to drive someone crazy.

You must be frustrated, of course! Keep the heat on as much as you can. This is obviously a deliberate cover-up.

But it's more than that too. It's evil. By applying these tactics the bad group there at that Hawaiian DOH is bringing harm upon themselves. You can't lie and deceive to harm someone without it seriously negatively impacting you.

15 posted on 09/22/2010 12:22:26 PM PDT by bvw
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To: LucyT

Can you ping the list for me, please?


16 posted on 09/22/2010 12:22:37 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Nice post Girl! I am on to reading it now! :)


17 posted on 09/22/2010 12:24:09 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: bvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH1g1NQkUtE


18 posted on 09/22/2010 12:34:14 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: bvw

Those are definitely apt descriptions. I couldn’t believe it when I contacted the Elections Office and Archivist’s office and got responses right away. In fact, I think every office in Hawaii that I’ve worked with has been prompt and helpful except the HDOH, OIP, and Ombudsman’s Office.

What’s happening at the HDOH matches what’s going on with the Passport Office though. The same techniques, the same claims that things got “lost”, the same falsification of documents, the same waste of time...

The thing that seems most predictive of whether those techniques will be used is whether or not the agency has (or claims to have, or should have) records pertaining to Obama.

Any bets as to why that is? ;)


19 posted on 09/22/2010 12:38:54 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

Yes, but what a HELLOVA Class Action lawsuit THAT could be!


20 posted on 09/22/2010 12:41:40 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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