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To: Forty-Niner
I thought you were saying I posted the next paragraph (the one I quoted back at you), because you said “what you posted....” i.e. what I posted would follow, but I didn't post that, apparently you did. Did you just not include what I posted that you implied would follow?

Either way they never say Kim Wong Ark isn't a natural born citizen. They say that he would be, according to English precedent, a “natural born subject”, and that in accordance with this principle, he would be “as much a citizen” as the natural born child of citizen parents.

That is quite a LONG way from carving out a particular category apart from being either a naturalized or natural born citizen. So far it is like WAY OUT THERE!

SO do you take the bet?

Come on? You sure seemed confident when you said you were going to win and I was going to lose and laughed.

157 posted on 09/21/2010 9:33:02 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
They say that he would be, according to English precedent, a “natural born subject”, and that in accordance with this principle, he would be “as much a citizen” as the natural born child of citizen parents.

You DO understand that a distinction is being made?? An apple is as much a piece of fruit as an orange, but an apple is still not an orange. This same concept applies to Obama. Even if he were born in the United States and was subject to the 14th amendment (something that has never been legally established), he is still just a fruit.

158 posted on 09/21/2010 9:45:31 PM PDT by edge919
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To: allmendream

Natural Born citizenship has no relevance in American law except as a eligibility requirement for the Office of t President.

That KWA was not declared a NBC is not surprizing because he isn’t, but that is irrelevant to his whole case.

Although there has never been a case decided in the USSC about the elegibility requirements for POTUS, several cases have made oblique references to the meaning of the term.

Easy bet U’ll freepmail you where to send the money!


164 posted on 09/21/2010 11:26:58 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ( Give Babs Boxer a pink slip just so we can call her ma'am again I believe she's earned it.")
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To: allmendream

“Either way they never say Kim Wong Ark isn’t a natural born citizen.”

At least now I know how your mind works (or doesn’t)....lololol

The KWA case revolved around the issue of, since KWA wasn’t a NBC (something not at issue in the case), could he be a citizen at all?

The court said that yes there are citizens other than NBC. Their justification for this ruling was the 14th amendment.

It’s not that hard to understand now.... is it?


178 posted on 09/22/2010 10:57:31 AM PDT by Forty-Niner ( Give Babs Boxer a pink slip just so we can call her ma'am again I believe she's earned it.")
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