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To: edge919
Repeating a false charge over and over doesn’t magically make it true.

No, the full text of the Minor decision proves it is true.

Nothing is out of context and you’ve been shown that.

Of course it is out of context. Here is the full passage, in context:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens,as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.”

You always omit the bolded sentence whenever your quote the Minor decision, and I am confident that any objective observer will immediately see it completely undermines your argument.

There's a name for selectively quoting only those sentences that appear to support your case while omitting those that undermine it.

Man up and admit I’m right.

Back at you. Man up and admit the bolded sentence that you always fail to include in your quote completely undermines your argument.

113 posted on 09/21/2010 4:26:39 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
LOL! So busted. And yet “Nothing is out of context”?

LOL!!!! Yes, he cuts it down for brevity and clarity, not because when you cut it down it looks definitive.

It seems pretty definitive that either one is a “citizen” “native” or “natural-born citizen” (all used synonymously) at birth, or one is an alien or foreigner.

An alien or foreigner is able to BECOME a US citizen via “naturalization” yet will never be a natural born citizen, who - via the natural act of being born - had US citizenship.

116 posted on 09/21/2010 4:33:58 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: curiosity
You always omit the bolded sentence whenever your quote the Minor decision, and I am confident that any objective observer will immediately see it completely undermines your argument.

The bolded sentence doesn't change the context. It doesn't change that only one of these defintions has never had doubts. It doesn't change that the Minor decision only used ONE of these defintions as THE definition of natural born citizen. It doesn't change the fact that Justice Waite said the accepted defintion of natural born citizen was THE defintion in the nomenclature familiar to the framers of the Constitution. That alone tells us that in regards to the Constitutional issue of presidential eligibility, ONLY ONE DEFINITION APPLIES. So, no, curiosity, the burden is solely on YOU to man up. I've destroyed your pathetic and errant accusation of quoting this definition of out context. Repeating that debunked accusation does not make it true and never will.

153 posted on 09/21/2010 9:25:34 PM PDT by edge919
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