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I never liked Karl Rove anyway...
The Looking Spoon ^ | 9-17-10 | Jared H. McAndersen

Posted on 09/18/2010 11:24:36 AM PDT by The Looking Spoon

I'm proud to say I have NEVER been a fan of Karl Rove. I'm sure hes a nice guy, but I think that he thinks politics is all a game...

That's why his ego was competing with his forehead when he trashed Christine O'Donnell for beating Mike Castle for the GOP's senate nomination in Delaware.

If you like Rove go ahead and look up the man's life story. Unless I missed the part where he spent some time mowing lawns as a kid I'm pretty sure Barack Obama has more experience working in the private sector than Rove does....

Rove's entire life has literally been politics. Either he never knew the world outside it or he has completely forgotten. I don't doubt the core of his world view is a conservative one, but for him renewing GOP control of congress means Republicans get to have it all their way in "The Game" again.

For him RINO's can be used to help the ball move forward, which, like communism, is a fine theory in paper and not quite realized in practice.

This isn't about beating Democrats, this is about literally taking the country back from people who are literally trying to transform it into something different. If that means losing a race or two because of principal THIS TIME. I'm willing to take that hit for the longer term vision of working to restore the principals of liberty, self-sufficiency, and "In God We Trust."

We can never make that case if voters don't understand the pain of the leftist alternative, and they sure as hell will NEVER understand that if our messengers are squishes who keep one foot in that pool.

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"It does conservatives little good to support candidates who at the end of the day while they may be conservative in their public statements do not event the characteristics of rectitude, truthfulness and sincerity and character that the voters are looking for."

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He thinks conservatives don't do themselves any good voting for an O'Donnell over a total RINO like Mike Castle. Where does that argument end? Once Castle gets elected it does us no good to unseat him as an incumbent, so we have to keep him in office now don't we?

The argument now becomes how conservatives don't want to lose the majority, so now we have to perpetually support ideological craters like Mike Castle, whose character hinges on which party strokes his ego the hardest. That's a hole we can never dig ourselves out of. Then the agenda will never move forward because of hacks like Rove convinced us that we need RINO's like him to win.

He thinks this because its conventional wisdom for someone who has spent his life sitting in the side-car of the motorcycle of power for so long he has absolutely no clue what real people, driving in their cars with their windows up and their talk radio blasting, are thinking anymore.

Remember, this guy has been given the legendary status of being George W. Bush's brain. Its no wonder, to me, how that presidency ended up being such an abject failure. Bush's presidency did conservatives little good.

He might disagree, but Barack Obama, and William Ayers, and Karl Marx wouldn't.


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1 posted on 09/18/2010 11:24:41 AM PDT by The Looking Spoon
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To: The Looking Spoon

Rove has always seemed like an opportunist and not a conservative.


2 posted on 09/18/2010 11:29:57 AM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: The Looking Spoon

Rove is a DIABLO. I am no fan of Dick Morris but he is more sincere and passionate about helping conservatives than Rove. Rove is a RAT.


3 posted on 09/18/2010 11:31:46 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: The Looking Spoon
It is hard to understand what happened last week
unless one follows the dots.
….. The origin of the BACKSTABBER WING OF THE GOP is
Mitt Romney, who appears to be behind the Toyko ROVE attacks on winning candidate O’Donnell.


“Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on,” grumbled one veteran Republican strategist.”


“Rove has made no secret of his support for Romney as McCain’s VP. ”


"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported:
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.

"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"


Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."


"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

4 posted on 09/18/2010 11:33:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: The Looking Spoon; GunsareOK

I forget who said it best but the traditional attitude of Rove and co. to peasants like ourselves after every election has always been:

“Thank you for your help, now go away.”

The house-cleaning must continue.


5 posted on 09/18/2010 11:33:27 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: The Looking Spoon

Rove has been demoted from Magnificent Bastard to just plain Bastard.


6 posted on 09/18/2010 11:34:13 AM PDT by fish hawk (there is only one God and he is not called Allah)
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To: The Looking Spoon

After reading Rove’s book I thought it a miracle that President Bush ever got that second term.

Karl’s advice was wrong on every topic.


7 posted on 09/18/2010 11:34:18 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: The Looking Spoon

At a dinner with him recently. While Anthony Kearns, world revowned tenor, performed, Karl texted under the table cloth. Nuff said.


8 posted on 09/18/2010 11:34:34 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (Ryan/Bachmann 2012)
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To: The Looking Spoon

this is also a lucrative source of income for Rove and other political operatives.


9 posted on 09/18/2010 11:42:31 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: The Looking Spoon

Tokyo Rose is a fraud... For a so-called political guru, I can’t remember him being right on anything for the last 4-5 years.


10 posted on 09/18/2010 11:46:49 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin/Bachmann '12)
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To: Diogenesis

This article is DEAD ON! Rove (and many of the Republican Senators now in WA), politics is nothing more than a ‘Club Sport’. How many ‘chips’ do we have - that’s all they care about. Screw principles, and beliefs, that’s all secondary to having ‘more chips’ than the other side. They are more concerned about ‘Chairmanships’ than sacrificing your political career for your beliefs.

Rove is the ‘architect’? Well, I give him all the credit he wants for the downfall of the Bush years. He was probably behind the ‘pc’ war in Iraq (send just enough troops to take over Baghdad - we don’t want to offend the Arabs too much).


11 posted on 09/18/2010 11:47:23 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Rove needs to be swept aside like all who get in the way of true Individual Liberty values. All these mechanistic pollbots need to understand that we are no longer manipulated by their Alinski stupidity. We have formed our own coalition...and you are not invited.


12 posted on 09/18/2010 11:48:00 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (Prepare for battle and never forsake the Lord...unknown)
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To: sinanju

“To the Republican establishment, tea party people are field hands. Their labors are to be recognized and rewarded, but they are to stay off the porch and not presume to sit at the master’s table.

And what O’Donnell did, with her amazing victory, is to imperil that establishment’s return to power. That is why these Republicans went ballistic.”

That’s Buchanan’s take.


13 posted on 09/18/2010 11:55:10 AM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Frantzie

Rove makes money helping the two established parties elite.
And it showed poorly on him last week.

“We would never elect a Muslim like Obama”
Come on Frantzie, how many Half white Kenyan born moosies are there in Iceland any way?

How’s things there? Did the financial troubles there hit ya hard?
Is it getting fall yet?


14 posted on 09/18/2010 12:07:56 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Less gubmint is best gubmint.)
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To: The Looking Spoon

“I never liked Karl Rove anyway...”

Me neither.

And he was Bush’s brain/puppeteer since Bush never had a brain (but neither did Rove).

In the debates, Dr. Keyes outsmarted Bush and everybody else in the 2000 run. In particular, he always outed Bush as the uninformed fool that he was. But Dr. Keyes was not a Soros’ acolyte as were Bush I and II. More credit to Dr. Keyes in that area.


15 posted on 09/18/2010 12:08:19 PM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Mountain Mary

“Karl texted under the table cloth.”

What a total ignorant, uneducated rude ass.


16 posted on 09/18/2010 12:16:27 PM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: The Looking Spoon
Rove's entire life has literally been politics.

I dont get it. If someone's entire life has been sports, is that better? Is there something dishonorable about being a successful political consultant?

Rove's consulting work has given him more private sector experience than the O has or ever will have. Running a political consulting firm is not a government job, it IS a private business.

If you write off every person whenever you have a political disagreement with him, you will find yourself with a very small circle of friends. This is why I believe the demonization of Karl is a mistake.

17 posted on 09/18/2010 12:22:11 PM PDT by freespirited
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The Establishment leaders in both Parties simply cannot understand that technology may have outstripped their ability to censor the Founders' ideas of liberty from the public discourse. This is baffling and troublesome to them.

Over the past few years, particularly since 2008, the Internet has made it possible for ordinary citizens to read the documents of their freedom in the quiet of their homes, to read all of the writings of Washington, Jefferson, the Adamses, Madison, and all the other intellectual giants of 1776 and 1787, and the populace is informed, knowledgeable and seeing through the would-be tyrants who wish to control them.

While speaking of Caesar, Jefferson said: "But steeped in corruption, vice and venality, as the whole nation was,... what could even Cicero, Cato, Brutus have done, had it been referred to them to establish a good government for their country?... No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and their people were so demoralized and depraved as to be incapable of exercising a wholesome control. Their reformation then was to be taken up ab incunabulis. Their minds were to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and deterred from those of vice by the dread of punishments proportioned, indeed, but irremissible; in all cases, to follow truth as the only safe guide, and to eschew error, which bewilders us in one false consequence after another in endless succession. These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure of order and good government. But this would have been an operation of a generation or two at least, within which period would have succeeded many Neros and Commoduses, who would have quashed the whole process. I confess, then, I can neither see what Cicero, Cato and Brutus, united and uncontrolled could have devised to lead their people into good government, nor how this enigma can be solved." --Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1819. ME 15:233

"An enlightened people, and an energetic public opinion... will control and enchain the aristocratic spirit of the government." --Thomas Jefferson to Chevalier de Ouis, 1814. ME 14:130

"An enlightened people, and an energetic public opinion... will control and enchain the aristocratic spirit of the government." --Thomas Jefferson to Chevalier de Ouis, 1814. ME 14:130

"I know no safe depositary of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion by education. This is the true corrective of abuses of constitutional power." --Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis, 1820.

"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories. And to render even them safe, their minds must be improved to a certain degree." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782.

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and they will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of education to convince them of this. They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787.

"Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government." --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789.

"Whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, the people, if well informed, may be relied on to set them to rights.", --Thomas Jefferson to Richard Price, 1789.

From James Madison:

"Although all men are born free, and all nations might be so, yet too true it is, that slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant – they have been cheated; asleep – they have been surprised; divided – the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson?... The people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it."

"A well-instructed people alone can be permanently a free people."

18 posted on 09/18/2010 12:23:32 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Frantzie

I’m not a Dick Morros fan. I view him the same as Rove, they’re slimy, untrustworthy


19 posted on 09/18/2010 12:33:17 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: The Looking Spoon

Karl, life’s a dance you learn as you go. Sometimes you lead and sometimes you follow. Guess what time it is.


20 posted on 09/18/2010 12:33:32 PM PDT by rsobin
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