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To: Cvengr

“An unbeliever can either choose to accept faith from God or reject it.”

This doesn’t make any sense, and I’m smelling a little bit of ‘election’ here.

Faith is a verb more than it is a noun. Belief, to have belief, is a choice you make. God works the way He does, but in the end, you have to choose God or reject Him.

I certainly agree that He provides the opportunities for accepting Him, but the biggest part of Christianity is most certainly all up to the one doing the believing.

Do I believe that once you’ve been saved, that the Holy Spirit indwells and He provides everything you need? You bet.

God, however, isn’t a rapist. You have to choose to love Him back.

Maybe we are saying the same thing. Faith, to me, is a verb, not a noun.


39 posted on 09/09/2010 4:28:40 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs

A great study in Greek is the word PISTIS/PISTEO.

Same word is translated faith in some passages, and others as belief.

Faith/PISTIS is used in three senses in Scripture.

1) as an adjective describing the object of one’s belief which is veritable.
2) A reliance upon another as an object of thinking
3) A doctrine or expression of thinking with the object upon another.

Faith in Christ is made effectual for salvation in part because it’s object of thinking is not upon ourselves, but is non-meritorious, placed upon Christ who is both God and man. God the Holy Spirit then is able to take that faith and by efficacious grace make it effectual for salvation.

Additionally, faith is also provided from God to man in thought, upon which the human soul, may contemplate the thought and either with volition accept the faith or reject it.

Once it is even briefly accepted, the human spirit is then regenerated by God the Father, providing a temple for the indwelling of God the Holy Spirit, who upon His volition (i.e. His Sovereignty) indwells the believer in this Church Age.

The human spirit is discernible from the human soul and has a system of perception, which without the human spirit, human soul is not able to perceive spiritual things.

All the work in salvation has been provided by God, and all that is required by the unbeliever is to accept the faith He also provides.

Some denominations touch upon collateral issues such as during our continuing sanctification, when we are in fellowship with God, He is then able to continue His work in us by our spirit and his work which is faith in us. We begin with a small portion that is veritable, and slowly build our vocabulary and linguistics in true faith provided by God Holy Spirit, who is essentially rehabilitating our soul via the spirit. All of that in us is His work.

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.


49 posted on 09/09/2010 7:22:10 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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