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To: Stultis

You tried to sidestep and outright LIE.
You outright back the gay agenda.
The rules of the forum as decided by the owner of said forum say exactly what about that?
FR is private property, I’m sorry that you do not understand that concept.
If the forum isn’t to your liking because it will not back the homosexual agenda, then perhaps you’re not on the right forum?


589 posted on 09/09/2010 5:14:29 PM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare; Jim Robinson; little jeremiah
You tried to sidestep and outright LIE.

I have always tried to be scrupulously honest on FR. If you could please specify my alleged "outright lie," I would appreciate the opportunity to correct myself.

You outright back the gay agenda.

I my view, as explained above, I do not back "the gay agenda" because I do not believe there is any such thing as "the" gay agenda. For the same reasons I do not believe there is any such thing as "the" black agenda, or "the" feminist agenda, or "the" immigrant agenda, or "the" poor/lower middle class agenda, etc, etc.

OTOH, I do believe there is a radical leftist agenda. A key strategy in furthering the leftist agenda is convincing members of such demographic or identity groups that they should all think alike (as leftists dictate) and/or forming leftist led front groups that pretend to speak for group members and advance their interests, but instead simply advance the interests of the radical left.

In all other cases, we conservatives support and applaud members of leftist targeted identity groups who speak out and organize to reject, expose, debunk and fight left-wing co-option. In the special case of homosexuals, however, some conservatives, including yourself and Jim Robinson, take the opposite approach. I sincerely believe this is a mistake. I believe such conservatives are at risk of thereby advancing the leftist agenda.

What would we think of conservatives who joined the left in, for instance, branding black conservatives as "race traitors" or "uncle toms," or otherwise discouraging and delegitimizing their dissent against leftism? We would never actively help the left keep blacks on the liberal plantation, but some conservatives do assist the left in keeping homosexuals in the liberal bathhouse.

The rules of the forum as decided by the owner of said forum say exactly what about that?

If you've followed my exchanges with little jeremiah, then you already know I understand the policy. It effectively holds that promotion of any self-identified homosexual individual or organization is ipso facto promotion of "the homosexual agenda," even if they also self-identify as conservative, because it is impossible for homosexuals to be genuine conservatives.

little jeremiah was goading me defend the conservative bona-fides of GOProud. But where I to attempt to do so I would, in legitimizing them as conservative, be legitimizing them in general, therefore supporting a homosexual organization, therefore backing "the gay agenda".

Although I do not accept this policy in terms of agreeing with it, I have complied with it since Jim Robinson replied to me in this thread.

The truth is, being a self appointed speech code enforcer, you don't like the fact that I'm following the rules.

590 posted on 09/10/2010 3:25:39 AM PDT by Stultis (Democrats. Still devoted to the three S's: Slavery, Segregation and Socialism.)
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