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Founder Of Reaganomics Says That "Without A Revolution, Americans Are History"
Zero Hedge ^ | August 17, 2010 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/17/2010 2:43:45 AM PDT by Zakeet

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To: Ronbo1948

I agree with you, to a point.

If come November a conservative majority takes one or both chambers, Obama may try an overt rule-by-czars move. Or he may try a sneakier rule-by-bureaucracy move.

It will then be the duty of the House to cut of funding, and the duty of the Senate to threaten impeachment.

But if the two chambers are too timid to do this, then we must go back and try again next election.

After all, this is still a democracy. The folks in Washington really are there by the will of the majority (Yeah, I know. Money corrupts. The media distorts. Etc, etc).

But it is folly to attempt to overturn majority rule just because the majority has elected idiots or even dangerous people.

Far better to fight to change the opinions of the majority!


61 posted on 08/17/2010 11:39:10 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

Believe it or not, I agree with you.

We must walk the extra mile for a peaceful resolution of this Constitutional crisis - ballots and parliamentary warfare are far superior to bullets and combat - and blessed are the peace makers like Glenn Beck.

What I’m saying is the enemy will very likely view such tactics as “counter-revolutionary” and pull naked force out of their tool box.

Let me put it this way - while a young soldier many years ago I was involved in a bar fight while stationed in Germany. I was one of those sitting in the rear of the establishment and when the room erupted into fists of fury and flying beer steins, myself and my friends had no option except to fight our way to the door.

I served for twenty years in Army Intelligence during the Cold War. I know socialists as well as I know every inch of my glorious naked body. I can tell you based on my experience that in their minds they have already won. They worship history. They believe their victory is inevitable.

The socialists will not be happy campers come November when the tide turns against them. I believe they will start a civil war and those of us sitting in the back of “bar” will have to fight in order to survive.


62 posted on 08/17/2010 12:32:27 PM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Ronbo1948

With that post you nailed my perspective on this article, right down to some pretty important details about what I DIDN’T like.


63 posted on 08/17/2010 1:23:53 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Ronbo1948

Yeah. He and I agree on a lot of stuff in his article, but his bringing in irrelevant specifics like Israel and wars is an area in which we disagree (not that I agree with all wars).

But that is a good thing. If we agreed on everything, we would be redundant and I would have to off him. ;)


64 posted on 08/17/2010 1:35:32 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Ronbo1948

You wrote: “The socialists will not be happy campers come November when the tide turns against them. I believe they will start a civil war...”

I see your point. But in that case, wouldn’t the military quickly extinguish such a move?

And I would think that the folks in the FBI, CIA, and Secret Service wouldn’t stand idly by either.

The socialists have to know this.


65 posted on 08/17/2010 3:43:44 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: ex-Texan
Early November can't arrive soon enough.


66 posted on 08/17/2010 4:52:54 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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To: wideawake
The government will go after nonpayers on the grounds that they are defying the law of the land and the popular will.

The government does not care about millions of illegals entering the country during war time. They've proved this.

The government has full, legitimate authority to enforce tax collection and it will make examples of those who break the law.

You can say the exact same thing about our lawless, violent borders as people enter by the millions illegally during war time.

Why does the government not enforce or secure our borders yet it has no problem taking money from legitimate law abiding documented citizens?

67 posted on 08/17/2010 5:03:58 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: M. Espinola
This is a must see:

Video: Gerald Celente Talking About Corruption

68 posted on 08/17/2010 5:23:28 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan
That message was right on target and sent on.

Goldman's empire with front-man Obama are on the verge of the 2nd phase of the fleecing of America. Have those stock index put options in place.


69 posted on 08/17/2010 7:12:22 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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To: Zakeet

econ gloom bump for later......


70 posted on 08/17/2010 7:39:55 PM PDT by indthkr
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To: PGalt

I agree!

Attack, Attack, ATTACK! the Left everywhere and put them on the defensive as the Ancient Regime reactionaries they are.

After all, we Patriots are the revolutionists with the whip hand...Let them dance to our tune!...Let them learn to FEAR the righteous and the iron yoke of the Law.


71 posted on 08/18/2010 3:26:54 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Leaning Right

The Left controls the military and federal law enforcement - Obama is still the CIC and many leadership positions - such as the chief of the U.S. Secret Service and Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army - are boot licking stooges of the Regime and would click their heels like good little Germans and do their Master’s bidding.

Would the rank & file follow their orders? Good question. In the last civil war the regular military dissolved peacefully and the service members went home to join their respective sides.

Another option would be to turn on their Obama Regime commanders and shoot them. After all, the military oath is to the Republic and not to the CIC.


72 posted on 08/18/2010 3:43:02 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Yes, too bad Shakespeare missed Oliver Cromwell and the English civil wars - In particular whose scenes where Cromwell had Charles I executed, and that famous scene where he marched his army into Parliament and dissolved it.

I’ve always admired Cromwell.

I have his picture on my living room wall.


73 posted on 08/18/2010 3:51:09 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Ronbo1948
Well Shakespeare was fond enough of killing Kings to have the two Richards die violently on, or just offstage. He would have done a bang up job with Cromwell and Charles.
74 posted on 08/18/2010 2:45:08 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Yes, Shakespeare killed off as many high born in his plays as your alter ego did of Romans aristocrats in the proscriptions...

Speaking of proscriptions - I wonder if our radical republicans are putting together such a list?

I understand the Left have a list 25 million patriots they’d sent to a GULAG in the Southwest for “re-eduaction”, if you believe Bill Ayers.

Personally, I think the Southwest would be too good to send the Leftists after their defeat in the inevitable civil war. I have something much better in mind for them - The Aleutian Islands off Alaska. I’ll bet on Shemya alone we could put at least 40,000 and at Adak a good 250,000 Leftist POWs. This region has arctic weather and cold Being Sea makes escape impossible.


75 posted on 08/18/2010 3:52:22 PM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Ronbo1948

I do not think/hope it will come to that. But for methodology it is hard to beat Robespierre.


76 posted on 08/18/2010 4:20:05 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I agree.

Say what you will about the Jacobins but they got rid of the Ancient Regime in a hurry...They literally chopped off the head of the ruling class from the king and queen on down.

Personally, I think old Robespierre went thousands of executions too far - The point could have been made just as well with the trials and executions of the leading members of the Regime, as was done by the Allies to the Nazis after WW II.

The rank & file ruling class can be neutralized by prison, exile and poverty as was done to the Tory ruling class after the First American Revolution.

Canada could find good use for 20 million new English speaking citizens that would double their population in a few months in the aftermath of a Second American Revolution.


77 posted on 08/19/2010 1:25:24 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Sulla:

My blog is here: http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/

I’m thinking of doing another article on what many are calling “The Second American Revolution” and I’m interested in using some of the arguments against a revolution you have advanced.

Again, my take is that a revolution started on January 20, 2009 when Obama took office. Therefore, those of us who oppose Obama and want to restore the republic are rebels, or in Marxist terms, “Counter-Revolutionists.” (CONTRAS)

Of course, to this point Obama’s revolution has been more or less peaceful, but that could change overnight since the man is apparently a radical socialist of some type and a psychopath.

Also, the Left knows they may never again be in a commanding position to overthrow the USA and that time is running out.

A good metaphor would be Lee at Gettysburg on July 3, 1863 when he ordered Pickett’s assault on the Union center in a last roll of the dice for Southern independence.

So we wait for the other shoe to drop.

Peace or War?

The ball is in the Leftist camp.


78 posted on 08/19/2010 4:07:20 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Zakeet
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is the father of Reaganomics an assclown.
79 posted on 08/19/2010 4:58:23 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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btrl


80 posted on 08/19/2010 8:45:40 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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