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Were Labor Unions Ever Necessary?
NetRight Daily ^ | August 6, 2010 | Adam Bitely

Posted on 08/06/2010 8:27:25 AM PDT by NetRight Nation

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1 posted on 08/06/2010 8:27:27 AM PDT by NetRight Nation
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To: NetRight Nation

Public sector unions continue to grow as a percentage of organized labor, and their sole function is to keep taxes high.


2 posted on 08/06/2010 8:29:29 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: NetRight Nation

The propoganda flag is popping up on this one. Can’t buy into this argument.


3 posted on 08/06/2010 8:31:12 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: NetRight Nation
What my granddaughter learned about labor unions in school.

There was a big fire in NY in a sewing factory. Several women died in the fire which was due to an electrical short. They unionized folks and promised them all good things.

What my granddaughter wasn't taught. That it's darn hard to find a "Made in America" tag.

4 posted on 08/06/2010 8:31:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: NetRight Nation

In most cases, the original intent of the labor unions were fine. In any economic system there are those that will maximize their profits without considering the moral impact. For example, horrid working conditions, child labor, forced overtime without compensation, and worse.

But, greed and jealousy still rule the day. As the unions won their concessions, they continued to press and as a result, they became the immoral leaders—pressing the corporations (who were still focused on profit) to make THEM rich, at the workers’ expense.

If you look at most human issues, the problems of greed and jealousy will screw up everything.


5 posted on 08/06/2010 8:32:34 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I lived in VT for four years. That was enough.)
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To: NetRight Nation

I really challenge anybody to give me one good reason why any PUBLIC EMPLOYEE sould be ALLOWED to join ANY labor union.

Just one.


6 posted on 08/06/2010 8:34:17 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Senator Goldwater
And when we get done busting up the unions, we can work on dumping some of those pesky child labor laws. After all, they're just kids, so we can pay them less.


7 posted on 08/06/2010 8:35:16 AM PDT by stormer
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To: Howie66
I really challenge anybody to give me one good reason why any PUBLIC EMPLOYEE sould be ALLOWED to join ANY labor union.

Freedom of association doesn't end when one gets a job working for the public.

8 posted on 08/06/2010 8:36:45 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: NetRight Nation

>>> Were Labor Unions Ever Necessary?

Do some research on pre-union conditions in the coal mining areas of Appalachia. Carnegie had his own company police, and the miners had debts to the company stores.


9 posted on 08/06/2010 8:37:11 AM PDT by tlb
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To: NetRight Nation

The early agenda of labor unions was workplace safety. Yes they were necessary.


10 posted on 08/06/2010 8:38:08 AM PDT by rsobin
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To: Howie66
Does that include police? Cause they won't like that.


11 posted on 08/06/2010 8:38:23 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer

Since employment is a contract between the employer and employee, and the consitution prohibits federal interference in contracts how are federal child labor laws (or any labor laws) constitutional?


12 posted on 08/06/2010 8:38:44 AM PDT by Dayman
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To: NetRight Nation

Without unions, there would be no fat-cat union bosses silly.


13 posted on 08/06/2010 8:39:02 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: NetRight Nation

Nothing in this article says anything about the situations that caused unions to come into existance in the first place. The deplorable working conditions, the slave type ownership of workers by companies, the child labor rules, etc.

Have unions become monsters? Absolutely. Were they an important step towards fair and safe working conditions. You bet your bottom dollar they were.


14 posted on 08/06/2010 8:39:52 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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We got collective bargaining on Jerry Browns last night in office. He signed the bill just before midnight. As liberal as he is, Brown always had the endorsement of law enforcement and I believe his signing was a gift to them.

We're all wallowing in the budget deficit in Cal and a big issue is the public employee pension. The cops and fire fighters (I am a retired peace office) can retire at age 51 with 90% of their salary for life.

I can list example after example of how unions screwed up the operations of various departments. When a union can bribe governors and state legislators the people who must negotiate and approve their contracts, what's the point? Many department directors became figureheads to unions whose officials had direct access to the governor's office and some who could actually walk onto the floor of the Assembly and state senate. I submit corrections and education as exhibits 1 and 2.

It's my opinion that unions brought good changes in places like coal mines 80-90 years ago, but by the time public employees got collective bargaining rights, the major battles were already over and we had passed the point of their necessity.

15 posted on 08/06/2010 8:41:34 AM PDT by whence911 (Here illegally? Go home. Get in line!)
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To: Dayman

Because minors can’t enter into any legal contract? Why is murder illegal?


16 posted on 08/06/2010 8:43:23 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Sacajaweau

You’re thinking of the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire.

The workers were locked in the building and died.

That said, those original union workers only sought safe working conditions. Unfortunately it didn’t take long before unions recognized that they could force companies to do other things and they haven’t stopped since.

Just yesterday Glenn Beck played a clip of Obama speaking to the AFL-CIO and telling them that they need to take on the “special interests”. In my opinion, that makes unions purely political organizations and they should be held accountable as such.

Public sector unions have never had a legitimate place in our society.


17 posted on 08/06/2010 8:43:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

It’s still not a federal issue. It would be a state issue.


18 posted on 08/06/2010 8:45:20 AM PDT by Dayman
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To: stormer
"And when we get done busting up the unions, we can work on dumping some of those pesky child labor laws. After all, they're just kids, so we can pay them less."

Well, unions generally ACT like children most of the time, so why don't we pay THEM less too?

Unions promote mediocracy and kill individual freedom.


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19 posted on 08/06/2010 8:45:54 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

It’s still not a federal issue. It would be a state issue.

Murder is a state crime and has nothing to do with the federal constitution.


20 posted on 08/06/2010 8:45:59 AM PDT by Dayman
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