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How Jehovah's Witnesses helped kill Prop 8 (Mormons helped pass, Jehovahs helped kill)
A Moral Outrage ^ | 8-6-10 | Joel P. Engardio

Posted on 08/06/2010 8:12:54 AM PDT by TitansAFC

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And in a side bit of humor.....I intend to address these differences by attending several Mormon birthday parties in the near future....

:-)

Also posted by USA today, but can't link it!

1 posted on 08/06/2010 8:12:57 AM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

homosexuality is not a religion.

“Judge” Walker (if anyone still respects the courts) stated homosexuality was an immutible behavior. Homosexuality is not a matter of conscience.

jehovas witnesses were recruiting to their faith.
is judge walker now endorsing recruiting children to a sexual behaivor?

A weak decision written by a weak man. (of course he is friends at the same club as all the other lawyers in the case)


2 posted on 08/06/2010 8:17:56 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TitansAFC

Using that logic, anything goes, polygamy, incestuous marriage, bestial marriage, whatever. The Judge is an idiot.


3 posted on 08/06/2010 8:18:20 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: TitansAFC

Hope you don’t OD on the lime jello..... LOL


4 posted on 08/06/2010 8:19:10 AM PDT by Pecos
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To: longtermmemmory

Correct.

Religion is a protected class. Orientation is not.

Next useless analysis please!


5 posted on 08/06/2010 8:19:35 AM PDT by Grn_Lantern (Let's go to work....)
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To: TitansAFC

Now we have the tyranny of the minority.

If something is so “fundamental” you would have thought it would have been discovered long before now.


6 posted on 08/06/2010 8:21:50 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: longtermmemmory

He’s a liberal gay activist judge. What did people expect. The good news is the case is so full of crap logic that the 9th may have to reverse in order to keep their own judicial appearance from looking as bad. SCOTUS will affirm voters 5-4.


7 posted on 08/06/2010 8:33:45 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Death Race 2000

Minority rule and blood games.


8 posted on 08/06/2010 8:33:48 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: HerrBlucher

Yep, by the judge’s logic, so long as you can show that your abhorrent perversion is practiced only by a small minority of Americans, you now have a right to practice it. Pederasty will be the next “right” invented by the left wing deviants.


9 posted on 08/06/2010 8:34:30 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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But not one devoted Jehovah’s Witness voted for or supported Prop 8.

Another half-truth exposed.

I like JW's and have had some as friends. I think their religion is way off base on certain points and probably closer to Biblical Christianity than mainstream sects on other points, an unequivocal stance against homosexuality being one of them.

As a rule, they don't vote. Neither do most of the Amish here in Pennsylvania. But I can guarantee you that a lot of them were praying on behalf of Prop. 8.

I know this because I've had civil discussions with several of their missionaries. If I happen to have time when they stop by, I'll give them the courtesy of a few minutes of my time. Their refusal to salute the American flag is based on a sincere religious belief, albeit one I believe to be sincerely wrong. The left's refusal is based on a hated of our country. Huge difference.

10 posted on 08/06/2010 8:35:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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if the opinion is the right result for the wrong reasons the appeals court will affirm. that is true in any case.


11 posted on 08/06/2010 8:40:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Oh nice. So a religious group who doesn’t believe in honoring the nation by saying the Pledge of Allegiance will nonetheless involve themselves in the American political process in this way? They won’t even vote, if I remember correctly.


12 posted on 08/06/2010 8:52:50 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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So a religious group who doesn’t believe in honoring the nation by saying the Pledge of Allegiance will nonetheless involve themselves in the American political process in this way?

As I understand the article, the JWs aren't "getting involved" in this issue. A court decision from years back involving them is being used to justify individual rights in this case.

13 posted on 08/06/2010 9:17:15 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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JWs are also the only people that I could not sell encyclopedias to.


14 posted on 08/06/2010 9:50:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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Why is that?


15 posted on 08/06/2010 10:23:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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They were not in need of books or television or information outside of their JW cult information.


16 posted on 08/06/2010 10:52:15 AM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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Where do you draw the line on protecting deviant behavior? Could a pedophile not make that same argument? Do consenting adults have the right to practice polygamy? I am not a JW, and there is a part of me that wishes that all cults, including Mormons, were criminalized, but if the state started to determine which religious groups should be allowed and which ones should be criminalized, it would open the door for the state to criminalize all religious communities that did not support the state’s politics. When the state starts to determine which behaviors are protected because such behaviors are thought to be by nature and not by choice, like a genetic disease, and that those genetic behaviors constitute a protected class, we are in deep sh*t.


17 posted on 08/06/2010 11:18:35 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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Didn't realize they were that sheltered, Next time one visits, I'll have to ask them about current events or some such thing just to test them out.

Some people think the Amish are sheltered as well, but they are actually quite aware of what's going on in the world. They do a lot of reading, not everything put out by themselves.

18 posted on 08/06/2010 11:51:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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I don’t know if this still applies, but decades ago, I used to ask JWs where their bible, or bibles were, most of the time they would start pulling out their JW books and I would have to explain that I meant only the actual bible, not books about it.

Sometimes they didn’t have, or at least could not locate their bible.


19 posted on 08/06/2010 12:00:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: TitansAFC

One suspects this decision was written long before the case ever was presented to his court.

As it is now being written in the 9th Circuit, and will be ready even before that Circus grants the appeal.


20 posted on 08/06/2010 12:52:53 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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