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Where has the oil gone?
Gulf Oil Blog ^ | August 1, 2010 | Samantha Joye

Posted on 08/01/2010 10:32:35 AM PDT by frithguild

The Deepwater Horizon wellhead that tapped the Macondo reservoir was capped on 15 July 2010. After the venting of oil and gas into the Gulf waters was stopped, everyone felt a sense of relief. Multiple news outlets have reported that the surface oil has disappeared, for the most part. I read many reports that stated conclusively the oil had been either transferred to the atmosphere (via evaporation) or that it had been consumed by oil-eating microorganisms. Everyone’s reaction was, not surprisingly, ‘what a relief !!’.

Should we be relieved? Is this disaster over?

On the whole, I believe the answer to both questions is no. It is a relief that the volume of surface oil is reduced, as this lowers the probability of oil-fouling of coastal beaches and marshes. However, it’s likely that a great deal of oil is still out there in the Gulf of Mexico’s waters, it’s just no longer visible to us.

While some of the oil has most certainly evaporated, much of it was dispersed and this oil is still floating around, invisible to our eyes, within the ocean’s water column. Some of the oil has probably sedimented to the seafloor, where it is also invisible to our eyes. The fact that this oil is “invisible” makes it no less of a danger to the Gulf’s fragile ecosystems. Quite the contrary, the danger is real and the danger is much more difficult to quantify, track and assess.

And, what about the dissolved gases, mainly methane? Very few measurements of methane concentrations have been made and very few people are thinking about methane’s potential impacts on Gulf deep waters. We, and a couple of others, have measured remarkably high methane concentrations in the water column. Its oxidation, and the microbial growth it fuels, will influence oxygen and nutrient budgets in the deepwater.

What about the dispersants? Where have they gone and what is their impact in the system? How are dispersants influencing the organisms that call the Gulf’s waters, beaches and marshes home? We do not know the answers to these questions but we need to know.

The impacts of the oil, gas and dispersant on the Gulf’s ecosystems will be felt for years, if not decades. We cannot pretend the danger has passed for it has not. Additional and on-going studies of open water, deep seafloor, and coastal dynamics are necessary. We must be diligent and we must insist that long-term monitoring programs be established and maintained so that we can evaluate and insure the recovery of the Gulf’s ecosystems.

Questions posed to the Gulfblog

1. Have microbes eaten most of the oil in the Gulf?

We don’t know. I have not seen any data reporting measurements of microbial oil degradation rates in the Gulf’s surface waters since the spill started and I’m not aware of anyone making such measurements. My group measured oxygen and methane consumption rates but not oil consumption rates per se. So, concluding that microbes have consumed all the oil would be impossible.

2. Will microbes eat the dispersants being used?

We don’t know this either. There have been no reports of dispersant degradation in situ in the Gulf waters since the spill started. There have been reports of dispersants in larval crabs so it is getting eaten. It’s unclear how “biodegradable” the corexit is however so we don’t know how long it will persist in the environment.

3. Was the characterization of your interview in the article fair?

This question refers to this story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews_excl/ynews_excl_sc3270). My words were taken somewhat out of context. I said that we know there are elevated rates of microbial activity in the deepwater plumes but we don’t know if this activity is stimulated by oil, by gas, or by both. We did not measure oil degradation rates per se.

4. Is BP buying off scientists?

I know some very good people who are doing research that is funded by BP so I don’t think it’s fair to say that BP is buying scientist’s silence in a general sense. Yes, some scientists have been asked to sign confidentiality agreements but they are given a choice about this. Believe it or not, some good research is funded by BP but those things do not usually make the newspapers. I have heard the stories of getting people to sign confidentiality agreements and I think that’s a bad thing, in general and especially in a case like this. It will be interesting to see if those [confidentiality] agreements are voided or relaxed now that the issue is getting so much bad publicity.

5. Is NOAA giving data to BP and not our public university scientist?

I do not know the answer to this question. I know that the data BP is generating is flowing freely to Unified Command (NOAA/USCG/EPA) but not to university scientists. The JAG reports (http://ecowatch.ncddc.noaa.gov/JAG/reports.html) contain some of the data generated by BP funded vessels (i.e. the R/V Brooks McColl). In general, I feel data should be more freely exchanged between the academic and federal/BP scientists and I feel that we need much more coordination and cooperative planning between academic and federal/BP scientists. There needs to be more central coordination in terms of what is being measured, where and when.

6. Are any professors or scientist at UGA working for BP?

Yes, a couple are but I don’t know the conditions of their contracts. My offshore work is funded by the National Science Foundation and NOAA.

7. How dangerous are the methane levels in the Gulf?

The methane concentrations in the Gulf’s deep waters are extremely high. The hazard posed by these high gas levels is that oxygen consumption will be stimulated and oxygen concentrations could become depleted. At this point, very few measurements of methane concentration have been made so we cannot say with certainty how high widespread the elevated methane levels are.

8. Is the air quality around the Gulf nothing to worry about?

I have not seen enough data to make a conclusion about this. I can tell you that when I was out there, the air quality was terrible (made me cough) when we were near areas of active burn-offs. Evaporation of oil into the atmosphere and potentially dispersants or dispersant by-products getting into the atmosphere could reduce air quality substantially. Once more, more data is needed before sound conclusions can be made.

9. Had you seen these pictures of millions dead bait fish and do you think it was oil, corexit, methane or low oxygen or all of them?

Fish kills happen without oil, corexit and methane. Determining the cause takes sleuthing and time. I have seen the pictures and it is tempting to link such events to the spill but we need data to do that and I have not seen convincing data making that link but I know studies are underway to make those linkages.

10. Are you’ll still able to publish your data to the public, and when?

No one is preventing us from publishing. It usually takes 4-6 months to write a paper after collecting and analyzing the data. I have already submitted on paper (it is in review) and I have another paper on the oil spill that will be submitted in a couple of weeks. When the papers are published, I’ll publish links to them on the blog.

11. Are there other leaks on the gulf floor near the main leak we see on the cams?

I have seen images of what looks like new seeps near the wellhead but it is difficult to say whether this is from natural seepage or whether it’s related to the blowout. Time will probably tell. Right now, it’s too early to say.

12. Has BP sprayed 43 million gallons of Corexit instead the 1.5 million they reporting?

I think it will be some time before we know the full scale and impacts of the dispersants used to manage this spill. I think it’s safe to say however, that 43 million gallons of corexit have not been used because the stockpile of corexit was not that big and the production capacity is limited. We can come up with the upper application limit by knowing those two things and it’s much closer to 5 million gallons than 40 million gallons.

What’s next?

We’re heading back out on August 19th. We’ll be out for about a month. We will doing some far field work (>50 miles from the wellhead) and we’ll work in the plume area for a couple of weeks.

Bi-Monthly Press Conference.

I will be conducting one more press conference (August 10th) before we leave for the cruise. The media advisory for the weekly press conferences will be available on the resources page of the blog.


TOPICS: Government; Outdoors; Science
KEYWORDS: macondo
The mind of an academic on display. This one seems honest.
1 posted on 08/01/2010 10:32:37 AM PDT by frithguild
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To: frithguild

Very good article.....living on the MS gulfcoast we just cross our fingers and hope.


2 posted on 08/01/2010 10:41:28 AM PDT by gulfcoast6 (GOD IS)
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To: frithguild
I am guessing it has followed the loop currents (see below) to the Atlanta and will be dispersed and be naturally biodegraded there.


3 posted on 08/01/2010 10:45:14 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Satan's greatest trick use to be convincing men he doesn't exist! But his latest novelty is Obama!)
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To: frithguild
A lot of self serving fearmonering. The entire amount of oil spilled over 90 days into the Gulf of Mexico amounts to two parts per billion that's just in the Carribean alone.

I'm sick and tired of all this fragile eco-system garbage. It's a robust self correcting sysytem designed by a power much greater than BP or POTUS. Mankind has an overwhelming sense of his own importance that I don't share!

Begone foolish mankind!

4 posted on 08/01/2010 10:50:48 AM PDT by STD (SoftTyranny Until He Cracks the Whip)
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To: STD
fragile eco-system garbage

Much of which has been brought to you by Penn State and a vast network of envirowackos everywhere! First to go on repeal of cabinet (and other fed gov) positions should be the EPA! That would be a good start to a 'manageable' Fed Gov!

5 posted on 08/01/2010 11:05:59 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: frithguild

I think Obama sucked it all up with a straw.


6 posted on 08/01/2010 11:07:45 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: STD

Well stated. Even with zer0’s awesome display of incompetence the gulf appears to be self remediating in short order. But, never let a disaster go to waste.


7 posted on 08/01/2010 11:32:47 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: CRBDeuce
I think that protection of the environment should be a job of the federal government, at least for air and water since they don't respect States' boundaries very well.

However, I don't believe that it is the job of our federal government. We would need an amendment to the Constitution for that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the federal government won't completely screw up the job, I just think that this is one of the few things that really need to be handled at a national level.

8 posted on 08/01/2010 11:42:49 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (Im running for the US Senate for a simple reason, I want to win a Nobel Peace Prize - Rubio)
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To: frithguild
The mind of an academic on display. This one seems honest.

There are two responses by any 'authority' that allow me to have confidence in them.

One is "I don't know", and the other is , "I could be wrong".

9 posted on 08/01/2010 12:04:33 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: STD
Fear mongering, exactly. No doubt there have been and it is likely there will be more somewhat localized effects, and especially to the people in those places, those effects can be catastrophic. But I believe they will be very manageable and temporary, and at the end of the day life will go on as it always has.

I have heard every kind of theory being preached including the so-called experts going on the Noory show who say it's going to kill the earth. But we have to look at this in terms of scale and what we have had coming out of a hole measuring a few feet is ultimately distributed throughout I don't know how many thousands of cubic miles of ocean and atmosphere. Though it has been squirting out of that hole three months, it is but a drop in the bucket. The currents will, over a relatively short period of time, reduce the so-called toxics to inconsequential levels.

10 posted on 08/01/2010 12:29:35 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
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Does anyone out there realize that the Gulf of Mexico is an open system? Does anyone ever think about the scale of things involved? I swear that we are the dumbest society ever.

Think about this one thing:

The Mississippi river empties into the Gulf of Mexico. From Wikipedia:

“The Mississippi river discharges at an annual average rate of between 200 and 700 thousand cubic feet PER SECOND.”

Read that again.

“The Mississippi river discharges at an annual average rate of between 200 and 700 thousand cubic feet PER SECOND.”

One cubic foot equals 7.48051948 gallons.

If we take the mid-range of these numbers, this means that every second of every day 3,366,233 gallons of water are being flushed into the Gulf of Mexico, not all that far from the location of the BP Macondo well.

This equals 290,842,597,382 gallons per day. That’s 290 BILLION gallons, if you have a hard time with the zeros.

The absolute WORST case estimate for the Macondo well discharge is 4,200,000 gallons per day. Latest official estimate was 2,500,000 gallons per day. But lets use the absolute worst case whacko fringe doomer estimate.

Every day, the Mississippi river discharges a volume of water that is 69,248 times the size of the Macondo spill. For every one gallon of oil that came from the well, 69,248 gallons of water were going into the Gulf of Mexico.

Let’s pretend that no one recovered any of the oil for the sake of discussion. Since the well was releasing oil for 86 days, that’s (absolute worst case) 361,200,000 gallons of oil altogether.

Now that the spill is stopped, that 290 billion gallons of water per day from the Mississippi are diluting the remaining oil and dispersant. EVERY DAY, the amount of water entering the Gulf of Mexico is 805 times as much as the TOTAL amount of oil from the well.

Combine this with the fact that powerful currents carry water into and out of the Gulf from the Atlantic Ocean and Caribbean Sea. These currents dwarf the size of the Mississippi in terms of the volume of water flowing.

Certainly, the effect of the oil spill on marine life and coastal areas is terrible for those areas affected. My heart goes out to those suffering from the economic impact.

BUT... the Gulf of Mexico is an open system, and in the actual scale of things, all the oil spilled from the Macondo well is microscopic. Over time the oil will disappear and the area will recover.

I hope this information helps someone, somewhere put things in perspective.


11 posted on 08/01/2010 1:04:15 PM PDT by ar15cz75
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To: frithguild

The more volatile components EVAPORATED within a few days!


12 posted on 08/01/2010 2:39:39 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: ar15cz75

Thanks for a very sane posting.

It’s gotten very tiresome reading all of the doomsayers’ predictions of how the environment is ruined for many years.


13 posted on 08/01/2010 3:50:52 PM PDT by octex
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To: frithguild

Why have they not measured the oil in the water? Because it is too dilute?

Why have they not measured the Corexit in the water? Because it has degraded? Degraded into what? Are the degradation products measurable?

They have measured the methane, but there isn’t any mention of the saturation point for methane in salt water. So, is high methane a concern? Does it not ever come out of solution, even with winds and waves? Is methane accumulated or is it a transient presence?

This person is on a Federal grant. The ecosystem is so fragile and she and her team are concerned, but they haven’t measured two products that everyone is hyping as worrisome and it will be another 2 1/2 weeks before they go out again and then it is for a month at the height of hurricane season. That could delay the data gathering for even longer. Active weather could change all the values they have measured so far.

Not my field, but, while I can understand the need for time to gather data and some more time to analyze that data, it seems to take quite an amount of time to even produce a report. For those who are working scientists, does this amount of time to produce a report on something that is concerning about effects on something that is fragile, seem reasonable? How many data points over what sort of area over what sort of time would be expected?


14 posted on 08/01/2010 7:38:31 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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