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To: RachelFaith

I see.

So, in response to the many sentiments sincerely expressed in my post, you’ve isolated a phrase and are quibbling with my use of ‘unseen’ rather than ‘not seen’

.. even though they can be and are at times used interchangeably ?

“Faith as the Evidence of things Unseen”
http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/4737/Faith-as-Evidence-things-Unseen.htm

... LOL.


604 posted on 08/03/2010 11:18:55 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE
I see. So, in response to the many sentiments sincerely expressed in my post, you’ve isolated a phrase and are quibbling with my use of ‘unseen’ rather than ‘not seen’ .. even though they can be and are at times used interchangeably ?

NO NO NO NO NO!!

READ!!!

For the love of God read!

I most surely did NOT parse words. I am most surely NOT playing word games.

I don't care WHICH word you use for it. Unseen, Unknown, Not Seen, Secret Squirrel, In-bloody-visible! They all MEAN the same thing ! DUH!

The reason you are stuck there, thinking I am playing word games is YOU DON'T KNOW THE MEANING of the verse.

Your meaning IS all those. You see that word, those words, and you mistakenly think it means "YOU CANNOT KNOW, BECAUSE".

THAT is my point. THAT is where you are wrong. THAT is the error.

The verse uses those words in CONTRAST to EVIDENCE and in CONTRAST to SUBSTANCE.

To make it clear, totally clear, that even those things YOU cannot see or think you cannot know ARE knowable. ARE REAL.

You hold the position that the future is something yet undone and therefore unknowable.

That is contrary to the word of God and the mind of Science.

THAT is my point. I do not play word games or internet BS jerking chains. This is deadly serious! The whole of the world in light or darkness will follow the salvation or damnation of America.

606 posted on 08/03/2010 11:39:00 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: STARWISE

I also read your entire commentary. And while it is nice and focuses on the meaning of faith for a believer, like most commentaries it leaves much else out and adds into it things it should not.

I do not put stock in commentaries, but the Word of God alone. Every verse is supported by every other verse. It does not need a commentary.

Here is the supporting verse for the EVIDENCE and SUBSTANCE and the duty to know the supposedly unknowable.

Prov 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.

He expects you to know and to have the faith that you CAN know.


608 posted on 08/03/2010 11:47:10 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: STARWISE; rxsid; Red Steel; Fred Nerks; El Gato; patlin; Spaulding

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35192432/Lolo-Soetoro-U-S-Records-Allen-v-DHS-State-and-Allen-v-USCIS-FOIA-Releases-Final-7-29-10

Released FOIA documents regarding Soetoro and Barry.

There is a document by a so called government employee named Mix confirming the child of Stanley Ann is a US citizen born in Hawaii but the childs name is not listed.


626 posted on 08/03/2010 2:52:54 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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