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To: jdirt; LucyT; cycle of discernment; pissant; Polarik; BP2; george76; Candor7; Beckwith; ...
Just a guess as to what the designation in parentheses (Soebarkah) might mean after "Barak Husein Soetoro":

It could be a shortened, contracted form of the name that would be used in Indonesia: the "Soe" could be derived from the family name "Soetoro" and the "barkah" a form Barack.

Is anyone here familiar with the Indonesian language and customs and can give us your take on this?

220 posted on 08/01/2010 2:08:18 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Has anyone taken a look at the Lolo Soetoro information that was also released? http://www.scribd.com/doc/35189898/Lolo-Soetoro-U-S-Records-Allen-v-DHS-State-and-Allen-v-USCIS-FOIA-Releases-Final-7-29-10

I can see stuff there that will interest Dr. Polarik, for sure. Almost 100 pages of information that will help fill in the timeline. Remember, too, that DHS and Janet Napolitano were having all FOIA requests passed through their mitts first, before being filled. Why? So they could sanitize? Certainly, they already admitted they were investigating the requesters. For political reasons.

Some of what was released on Lolo has been redacted and some pages held back. There are copies of the marriage license, iirc, and SAD’s bc. Wanna bet one page they redacted was little Barry’s bc? They claim they held this information back because, in their interpretation, it’s data in personnel, medical, or similar files and would be an invasion of privacy that would MOST CERTAINLY cause much harm to the individuals involved, with no public justification for releasing the information. That’s my interpretation. Here’s what they wrote:

“Exemption (b)(6) permits the government to withhold all information about individuals in personnel, medical and similar files where the disclosure of such information would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. Records responsive to your request were located in a Privacy Act protected system of records referred to
as the Alien File/Central Index System (A-file/CIS – DHS/CIS 001).”See 72 Fed. Reg. 1755 (Tuesday
January 16, 2007). This system of records contains information regarding aliens who have sought
benefits under the immigration and nationality laws of this country; these records are collectively referred
to as alien registration files or “A-files.” A-files are universally recognized as being similar in character
to personnel and medical records (inasmuch as they contain some of the most sensitive and intimate details associated with aliens who have sought benefits under U.S. immigration laws) and, thus, are entitled to the protection from disclosure afforded under FOIA exemption (b)(6).

In deciding the disclosure disposition of those documents containing personal details lifted from the lives
of private individuals, the documents were closely scrutinized in an effort to identify any public benefit to
be gained from their disclosure. It was ultimately determined that no discernable public gain would be
achieved from the disclosure of the information subject to this review. On the other hand, the potential
private harm that could be suffered as a result of the release of this information was found not only to be
tangible, but also significant and reasonably probable. In the case of these documents, the potential
private harm stemming from their release was determined to clearly outweigh the total absence of any
public benefit to be gained from such disclosure. Consistent with this analysis, it has been concluded that
the release of the subject information would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of the personal
privacy of the individual(s) to whom it pertains. The USCIS, therefore, must deny your request for access
to this information under the authority of FOIA exemption (b)(6).”

I wonder who the alien was who wanted US benefits? SAD and Lolo are dead. NO public gain? None whatsoever? How about if an alien should become POTUS?

btw, if it’s true that these papers, before being destroyed, were first microfilmed and sent to the National Archives, then somebody better beat it on over to the National Archives to look for SAD’s original passport application.

Maybe she originally got a passport in the early 50s, when she went to school in Lebanon.


245 posted on 08/01/2010 2:52:06 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: justiceseeker93; LucyT
Thanks justiceseeker93.
They don't have her records before 1965 !!

299 posted on 08/01/2010 5:53:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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