Posted on 07/11/2010 9:47:51 AM PDT by wagglebee
One of the big stories today in Australia is of a Melbourne woman who has announced that she is traveling to Thailand to have sex selection IVF because it is against the law here. She just has to have a girl, don’t you know! From the story:
A MELBOURNE mum is so desperate to have a daughter she is travelling to Thailand so she can choose the sex of her next baby, frustrated at Australian medical authorities as they drag their feet over the issue. Already blessed with three boys – aged 5, 4 and 1 – the 36-year-old and her husband say they have been forced to sidestep Australian laws because they cannot wait for federal medical authorities to decide if they will overturn their ban on the practice. While she says her boys mean the world to her, the mother – who does not want to be identified for fear of reprisals against her family – will spend more than $15,000 to ensure she conceives a girl in a Bangkok clinic in the coming months.
Of course, this means the male embryonic brothers of those treasured boys will be tossed out with the other medical waste. So, in this case, a Y chromosome is a deadly defect. But after all, it is all about entlitlement:
“We have all this technology available now and we don’t need to use it open-slather, but I think we do need to use it with parameters, with doctors involved, to enhance our lives.”
Proper parameters? She’s circumventing legal parameters by leaving Australia for Thailand because she wants what she wants.
Increasingly, IVF is not about treating infertility, but about reducing reproduction to a crass consumer activity akin to choosing a breed of dog or model of flat screen television. This is objectification pure and simple. When we believe we are entitled not just to a child but to the kind of child we want, it strikes a body blow against unconditional love–becuase by definition, it isn’t. Of course, the point of telling the media about the “mum’s” plans was to promote that very outcome.
This was ALWAYS the goal.
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People just have zero morals anymore. Their rights trump all else I guess. Whatever happened to just keep trying for a girl if you wanted one that bad?
What about parents being able to determine the sex of their child is, in and of itself, immoral?
You are either for IVF as a medical procedure, or not.
If you are not, so be it.
If you are for IVF then sex selection should be an option. Couples must select which embryos to be implanted. So why not choose by sex? Some embryos can be sex selected at the time and method of fertilization.
She doesnt want a designer baby, a dog, or a TV. She wants a daughter. And medical technology can help her have one.
Beats aborting, killing or dumping unwanted females (r males) by a long shot.
There is NOTHING inherently immoral about WANTING either a boy or a girl.
However, the very act of IVF necessitates playing god. It is an attempt to place the ability for creation in the realm of science.
Moreover, there are typically multiple embryos created during IVF, those that are not implanted are destroyed, this is destruction of human life.
She doesnt want a designer baby, a dog, or a TV. She wants a daughter. And medical technology can help her have one.
Beats aborting, killing or dumping unwanted females (r males) by a long shot.
In NO WAY does this "beat" abortion, the "unchosen" embryos are destroyed.
IVF wasn’t my question. What is immoral about parents being able to determine the sex of their child. If a male could take a pill that would cause any child born that could determine the sex of a child would that be immoral?
It is still man's attempt to play god.
you have no idea what they will or will not do with the unused embryos
But again, your argument is against IVF, not against sex selection
http://reproductivefertility.com/sex-selection-procedure.html
I have no problem with gender selection in this type of scenario (multiple children of one gender at home), but do take issue with destroying embryos- whatever the reason.
Unused embryos are destroyed; this is not my "idea", it is a FACT.
But again, your argument is against IVF, not against sex selection
No, it's against both.
Good grief, wagglebee, your threads really bring them out.
The pro-death crowd will hide behind any rationalization to justify their position.
There is ZERO DIFFERENCE between discarding embryos of the unwanted genders during IVF and aborting the fetuses of unwanted genders after an ultrasound. They are two different medical procedures to produce the same morally indefensible result.
Another logical scenario from the designer family cultural syndrome. The real story here is that for once the desired child is a female. This might be the only case of a family trying exclusively from a female child. Usually the girls are treated as trash.
What ever happened to allowing nature to take its course?
Because then we don’t get what we want.
*Pout, pout* >:(
Your position doesn’t make much sense. There are certainly arguements to be made again IVF, exspecially in a case like this, but that aside I don’t understand your position on sex determinism. If someone can determine the sex of their child without taking an innocent life it’s not “playing God” it’s science.
Did you just call me part of the Pro-death crowd?
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