New iPhone 4 problem: Camera crashes, takes down FaceTime

Silicon Beat ^ | June 28th, 2010 | Troy Wolverton

[PugetSoundSoldier]

You’ve heard about the yellow screen splotches and the wonky antenna that requires you to hold the new iPhone just right.

But now a new issue is coming to light: a faulty camera system that not only affects your ability to take pictures, it can foil your attempts to use FaceTime, the video chat feature that is the iPhone 4’s top talking point.

[driftdiver]

“A link to which continues to elude you,”

there was a whole thread on the subject. a thread to which you posted, so go do your own research if you can’t remember from one day to the next.

[driftdiver]

and no matter what you’ll continue to deflect and thrown tantrums at any suggestion your fruity religion is false.

[driftdiver]

‘It’s just a mobile device, people.”

Exactly

[antiRepublicrat]

See, I’ve gone through this too many times.

Apple doesn’t rely on security through obscurity. We have demonstrated this. We have shown you malware writers targeting vulnerable populations of 12,000 and ~100,000, and infecting huge numbers within minutes. OS X, with at least 50,000,000 desktop users and millions more iOS users, is a very large, desirable and visible target. There are trojans that require an idiot user, some proof-of-concepts, and some zero-days to win contests. People ARE WORKING ON IT. They want to be able to exploit OS X. The evidence is there that they are trying hard. But they have been unsuccessful at getting anything to take hold in the wild, to propagate on its own, no Mac botnets.

Maybe one day we’ll have that, but not yet, not for lack of trying, not because of any supposed obscurity.

Time to abandon the myth.

[RachelFaith]

Don’t believe a single posted word that Pug puts out about what I say. He likes to pick and choose selectively what he reads and what it means.

Here is my direct reply to his repeated lies.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2546986/posts?page=118#118

Thanks.

[rockrr]

Some days I think we should all have nametags, “Hi, I’m a troll and my name is.......” Lol

[PugetSoundSoldier]

I thought Apple software was safe... I guess when you release buggy code for another OS you have to be double-sure with Apple. Perhaps a bit of corporate attack going on? Can anyone other than a Mac/iPhone user trust any Apple software?

And sure - WebKit is in all Mozilla-based browsers; they were all vulnerable to those ACE holes. That’s a problem when you use a wide-ranging, openly published platform. Security is in the hands of someone else, and apparently that leaves your holes open.

[antiRepublicrat]

Perhaps a bit of corporate attack going on?

You know, that's probably an actionable statement.

Can anyone other than a Mac/iPhone user trust any Apple software?

In general Apple's software will be better on a Mac. It is written to take advantage of a lot of features specific to OS X, such as CoverFlow. Those things have to be rebuilt for Windows, which adds complexity, and with complexity always comes the possibility of more mistakes.

And sure - WebKit is in all Mozilla-based browsers

This just keeps getting better and better! Mozilla products such as Firefox use the Gecko rendering engine, not WebKit.

That’s a problem when you use a wide-ranging, openly published platform. Security is in the hands of someone else, and apparently that leaves your holes open.

Android?

[PugetSoundSoldier]

You know, that's probably an actionable statement.

So they can sue me...;)

In general Apple's software will be better on a Mac. It is written to take advantage of a lot of features specific to OS X, such as CoverFlow. Those things have to be rebuilt for Windows, which adds complexity, and with complexity always comes the possibility of more mistakes.

On that we fully agree! Apple has a lot less hardware and software configurations to worry about; maybe a half-dozen hardware platforms and 2-3 OS versions to worry about. That's a lot easier than supporting video cards from 1992 running on a 16 year old OS.

This just keeps getting better and better! Mozilla products such as Firefox use the Gecko rendering engine, not WebKit.

Sorry, I got it wrong. So sue me...;)

Android?

Precisely. However the Android community can fix the bugs; iOS users must wait until Apple decides to get around to it. And if they don't (like the most recent patch released, for early versions of iPhones and iPod Touches), you cannot try to fix it yourself without breaking the law.

[antiRepublicrat]

That's a lot easier than supporting video cards from 1992 running on a 16 year old OS.

That's one of the things that makes OS X so stable and secure. Apple has experience with backwards compatibility, having made three major transitions (68K to PPC, OS 9 to OS X, PPC to Intel). Apple just keeps the backwards compatibility contained to a manageable level, and eventually removes it.

However the Android community can fix the bugs; iOS users must wait until Apple decides to get around to it.

Technically true. In reality, only a tiny minority of people are capable or willing to do that. The rest wait for the manufacturer update.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

That's one of the things that makes OS X so stable and secure. Apple has experience with backwards compatibility, having made three major transitions (68K to PPC, OS 9 to OS X, PPC to Intel). Apple just keeps the backwards compatibility contained to a manageable level, and eventually removes it.

And that backwards compatibility (hardware and software) is why Windows dominates the desktop. Microsoft knows there's a stability hit when you do that, but it also keeps you with 92%+ of the market.

Technically true. In reality, only a tiny minority of people are capable or willing to do that. The rest wait for the manufacturer update.

I think you'll see it start moving to the Linux model, where the technically savvy/interested users will support the OS with patches and upgrades for existing deployments, and users will start uploading those patches. You don't need everyone to be capable of the updates, just a small handful, and everyone benefits.

[antiRepublicrat]

And that backwards compatibility (hardware and software) is why Windows dominates the desktop.

That is definitely a strong reason. It's also one reason why Windows is less stable and secure. I'll take stable and secure.

I think you'll see it start moving to the Linux model, where the technically savvy/interested users will support the OS with patches and upgrades for existing deployments, and users will start uploading those patches

You're still thinking PC. This is consumer electronics devices. Even if patches get into the trunk, almost all users will rely on the device manufacturer for the updates. And as we've seen, that can take a while in Android, with phones getting updates many months after the release of the latest Android. BTW, don't forget that several portions of iOS are also open source.