Posted on 06/24/2010 8:34:20 PM PDT by pissant
This interview is part of an ongoing 2010 series of conversations with former Congressman and conservative icon Duncan Lee Hunter. The intent is to keep this rock ribbed conservatives ideas in the public square which will hopefully influence the direction of the Republican Party, as well as inspire the American people to embrace his Reaganesque views on American life and politics. With any luck, Hunter will seek the presidency again in 2012, but for now he is concentrating on helping the GOP wrestle control of the Congress from the radical Pelosi brigades.
This is Part 2 of a 2 part interview.
AJM: OK, let me jump on to Joe Barton. You know Joe?
DH: Yeah, Joes a good friend.
AJM: Hes made the news the last several days.
DH: Ive seen very little on that. Im really on top of things here (laughs). I dont watch much television. Im writing away here and havent had the time to follow all the news.
AJM: Its a simple story. Barton came out after Obama had, last week, where he brought in the CEO and the officials from BP for his powwow, his photo-op powwow. In the course of his meetings he got British Petroleum basically to create an escrow account, controlled by the government, of 20 Billion dollars for cleanup, re-imbursements, and what have you down on the Gulf Coast, for the oil spill.
And after that, it was a short meeting, and I cant remember which day it was last week, but after the meeting, old Joe Barton came out and said that the President cant force a private company to cough up $20 billion. And that its not in the Constitution for him to even attempt it. So he called it unconstitutional and he gave a mock apology to BP. And of course, the press and the dems ran with that Oh, Joe Barton and the Republicans are on the side of polluters and blah, blah, blah; ignoring the constitutional argument.
So anyway, hes been in the medias and the Democrats crosshairs ever since he made that apology to British Petroleum for the United States doing this shakedown is what he called it. Of course some of the GOP leaders also got weak kneed over it as well and admonished him.
DH: Yeah, I havent seen it all. Ive been writing my book. I saw a snippet on it and I saw one thing as I was flipping through the television, I saw Olberman making a mocking reference to Joe Barton. Thats all I know.
But heres what I think all the liberal democrats should do. I think to prove their purity; they should all swim to work.
AJM: (laughs).
DH: Or in the least, ride a bicycle.
This is similar to national security. Its analogous to a national security situation when you have liberals, who never wore the uniform, basically the recipients of the comfort and the freedom provided by the people who do wear the uniform of the United States military, constantly criticizing the actions that are taken by those in uniform who are in very difficult and inconvenient situations, very stressful situations. So they want to have security, and the freedom to speak their minds, but they want our soldiers to be totally cool and calm and considerate when they are being shot at, and to never react rationally. They want to be protected, but they want to be protected under a very strict set of politically correct rules, regardless of the danger it puts our soldiers in.
By the same token, on the economic side, these liberals want to live in total comfort and convenience. Yet they
AJM: Yeah, Algore just bought another 16,000 square foot mansion out on the West coast.
DH: Who did?
AJM: Algore.
DH: Thats one word?
AJM: Yeah, Algore. Thats what I call him.
DH: (laughs) Didnt Al Gore and Nancy Pelosi do an air show with their competing jet aircraft?
AJM: (laughing)
DH: The question was how many tons of pollutants each one could put in the air over a two month period.
AJM: (laughs) I think they were racing their jets along with a bunch of other liberals over to that Copenhagen climate conference last year.
DH: I mean none of these people are swimming to work, at least from my observation, or even bicycling to work. They are happy to receive all the benefits of the modern energy system and at the same time swear allegiance to everything green, as long as it does not require any discomfort on their part.
AJM: As long as the discomfort is on someone elses part, they are fine with it.
DH: Well thats true. So, thats my response to these lefties criticizing old Joe.
These guys will be the first ones to complain, if we end up reducing the petroleum production in the United States, they will be the first ones to complain if we have that lifeline of oil that goes through the Straights of Hormuz shut off in a military situation. And theyll be the very last people to risk their lives to keep that lifeline open, if it comes to that.
So they want to have comfort, they want to have convenience, and they want to be able to do it while claiming they are petroleum free. They live in the lap of luxury because, in part, of the energy structure we have in this country.
AJM: Yep, those hard working roughnecks that are out there drilling for oil each and every day. You know also that Obama put a 6 month moratorium on all deep water offshore drilling. And this morning, thank God, a federal court in New Orleans overturned that. So we got some good news.
DH: That could damage the economy as badly as the doggone spill.
AJM: I think so.
DH: I thought Obama made a statement in favor of offshore drilling several months ago, didnt he? Before the BP spill.
AJM: Yeah, lip service. As soon as we get a spill, out comes the 6 month moratorium. And it just got overturned today in New Orleans. Of course, the Obama administration is going to appeal the overturn.
DH: Of course.
AJM: But we might still win this battle on the six month moratorium, which I think would devastate the local economies, AND give gas prices a huge up-tick.
DH: Yeah.
AJM: I mean its not just folks in their cars like me and you, its the Pelosis of the world who fly their jets back and forth on our dime. That jet fuel comes from the same crude source.
DH: Well, I think Nancy Pelosi has a core of constituents .you know shes got a unique district. Shes got a core of probably the most anti-war and anti-military constituency in the world. A small core of the people that had the signs that said We support our troops when they shoot their officers. I mean that took us back to the Vietnam War era when you had pro-Viet Cong signs all over here in San Francisco.
AJM: Sounds like John Kerry.
DH: But I think she also has a fringe group of very wealthy people who would like to see the cost of gas go to $10 a gallon. They really think that the little people shouldnt be driving in cars. And they can easily afford to put that $10/gallon gasoline into their Mercedes. So theyre not worried about it, personally, so that makes them feel good - the idea that they are now against the automobile.
So when people talk about how terrible its going to be if the price of fuel goes up, I think of the wealthy, fringe leftwing constituency that says I hope it goes to a hundred dollars a gallon because I dont believe in cars that are desecrating the planet.
AJM: Yeah, yeah. Because they can still afford the $100 a gallon, while the rest of us cant.
DH: They think the vast majority of Americans should unhorse their cars. Or that we should all have very tiny cars.
And aside from all that, we havent even touched on the constitutional issues surrounding the Obama Administrations questionable dealings with the oil companies. But Id have to read more on it than I have at this point.
AJM: Exactly. Hey, one last question. I want to switch gears and go to Arizona.
The Obama administration spilled the beans. They are going to sue Arizona for passing their new law, which is basically a mimic of not only federal law, but also a mimic of Missouri law thats been in force for the last five years.
DH: Thats interesting. So Mr. Obama is going to sue somebody for Xeroxing his law. Very interesting.
I thought that when Obama raised his hand and swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States, and I presume that that included the laws passed there under, he didnt mean just the parts that he likes or that are politically expedient for him. Hes against his own laws at this point.
AJM: In my opinion, I personally think hes already illegal even being in the presidency. Well get to the bottom of that yet.
DH: Ill let you be the lead investigator there.
AJM: Well, we are!
DH: Well good!
AJM: And believe me its going to be an eye opener .
DH: OK. But get my research done before you track that one down.
AJM: (laughs) Yeah, well get you the full report on that later.
DH: (laughs) I dont want to have you calling me and telling me that youll get to my stuff on Anbar province but that you had to wait until you could prove Obama is illegal
AJM: No, no, no. That is a long term operation here.
DH: (laughs) OK.
AJM: In addition to suing Arizona, the head of the Labor Department came out yesterday. Her name is Hilda Solis. I dont know if you know her.
DH: Yeah. Shes a former member of Congress.
AJM: Yeah, from the Dingbat party.
DH: Well, I wouldnt call her a dingbat.
AJM: I would.
DH: I saw her on the floor. She was a liberal, but I didnt see her making any wild and crazy statements.
AJM: Well, heres one of them. Ill tell you exactly what she said. Ill read it.
DH: OK.
AJM: She said that workers, legal or not have the right to earn a fair wage in the United States. That even if they are illegal, they set up a help line for illegal aliens, at the Labor Department, so they can call and make sure that they are earning a proper living wage! This is outrageous.
DH: It is outrageous. Thats a total disservice to border enforcement. That helps to create the magnate that brings illegal aliens into the country. And that causes confrontations with the brave men and women of our US Border Patrol.
So on one hand, the Federal Government, under Obama, pretends to support the border agencies. On the other hand, they are inducing people into breaking the law.
I dont think it needs a lot of discussion. It is simply a rank disservice to our laws and to the law abiding citizens of our country. It goes against all the so called border enforcement initiatives that the Obama Administration puts out press releases on.
DH: Now listen to this. Your friend Jon Kyl, who you know very well came out yesterday. And he stated that publicly I dont know if it was a townhall meeting or an interview he stated this. He said he had a one on one meeting with Obama in the last couple of weeks about the problems in Arizona with illegal aliens. And he said that Obama told him that he cant enforce the border, because if he enforces the border now that that will be a disincentive for the Republicans to work with him on his new comprehensive amnesty plan, or Comprehensive Immigration Reform, as they like to call it.
Thats what Kyl said. Obama, of course, denied it. But Kyl reiterated it and said thats exactly what Obama told him. So theres some game being played on immigration.
DH: NO! (highly sarcastic)
Listen, if thats the most profound thing you got for me that there are games being played with immigration then Ive got to leave. (laughs)
But seriously, Ive got to get back to my work. But Im glad you told me that. Im glad Kyl is working the issue.
AJM: Yeah, hes been a pretty good ally of yours over the years on these issues, hasnt he?
DH: Yeah, hes a great guy.
AJM: In this confrontation of he said- she said, Im going to have to go with Kyl on this one.
DH: Yes. Its standard Chicago politics. You dont fix the other guys problem until he fixes your problem. The catch though is if your problem ends up being something that is highly unreasonable for the country, like Mr. Obamas, then you have paralyzed our problem solving process for a long period of time.
AJM: OK. My last comment, to get your comment. In Arizona also, there a section of border that is roughly 80 miles long that is part of the National Forest there. Its down in Pinal County , I believe. Not Pima, but Pinal.
DH: Yeah.
AJM: And they have put signs up telling Americans they cannot enter this National Forest because of the high risk from drug smuggling and human smuggling going on. It is some 5500 acres of National Forest or National Park land that Americans are forbidden from entering.
DH: Well, I think you just described why the Arizona legislature moved. That, plus the murder of the rancher and their massive increase in crime I think youve just described or explained the sense of urgency that Arizona had to try to stop this tide of folks coming across illegally. Because a involved in that tide of illegals coming across, there are lots of people who are criminal aliens. Twenty five percent of the population of our federal penitentiaries now are illegal aliens. Arizonas prison population may even be higher.
I think if people understood what is happening to Arizona and incidentally I think a lot of American people do based on the approval numbers reflected, not in the elites making their comments which are always politically correct, but everyday Americans who understand that an open border allows lots of criminal elements to come in.
Thats one reason Arizona felt compelled to act. Their actions are really a manifestation of the frustrations with the Federal Governments insane refusal to carry out its responsibility of maintaining a secure border.
AJM: And frankly, the Obama response to Arizona is to sue them, to overturn their laws and disregard their requests. I mean, that has got to stop!
DH: You know what Arizona ought to do? They ought to run some commercials, nationally. They ought to pay for some commercials. And they should show those signs that say because of the physical danger from drug dealers and other illegal aliens here at the border, Americans are no longer allowed to enter this part of THEIR National Forest.
And they ought to have somebody, maybe the governor of Arizona, in a very nice, but firm way, explain to the American citizens why they are saying yes, we think federal laws should be enforced and yes, were willing to enforce the federal law!.
AJM: I would say lets get YOU on that ad.
DH: Well, OK. (chuckles)
AJM: Because frankly Congressman, you, throughout your career, and even today in the discussions going forward since you left office, you have been on the bleeding edge, the cutting edge
DH: Bleeding Edge? (laughing)
AJM: .of this issue for so long. I mean you force fed it to your own county. In other words, you force fed your county some common sense, over obstacle after obstacle. And you tried to get the whole border taken care of. But it takes people like you. And I would say there are some others, for example, Mr. King out of Iowa has been fantastic. You had a handful of other guys who were your staunch allies in this effort. But if we lose people in Congress who are willing to speak up to the administration, whether its Bush or Obama, this will never be solved.
DH: Well, heres what we have to do. We have to elect a Congress that is going to insist that the law we passed in 06 that mandates the border fence, that they insist it continued to be carried out. And that insists that Obama not circumvent the laws of the land, and hold his feet to the fire.
AJM: Yeah, and I think I told you that Jim DeMint was trying to resurrect that thing and resurrect the funding for the Hunter Fence. Of course, he ran into the brick wall of the Democrats. And here we are.
DH: Yeah, and here we are.
AJM: OK. Well have a great day, Congressman, and thanks.
DH: Well talk to you later.
IB4TP!
In case you missed these previous interviews!
Duncan Hunter 6/22/10 Part 1: Iraq Reality vs. The Wash. Post & Gen. McChrystal Vs. Obama
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2540963/posts
Duncan Hunter interview 6/9/10: CA Elections, Virtual Appearances, Chicom Dangers, and more!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2536020/posts
Duncan Hunter talks War: The Korean flareup, Vietnam, and Leftwing Disgraces - Interview 5/26/10
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2522373/posts
Tradin with Reagan and Gaggin on Kagan: Duncan Hunter Interview May 17, 2010, Part II
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2517498/posts
On Knuckleheaded Apologies, Russia & Iran, and Border Politics: Duncan Hunter 5/17/10, Part I
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2516378/posts
A very, very Brief Conversation with Duncan Hunter: 5/17/10 - Chuck DeVore endorsement!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2515430/posts
Duncan Hunter FR Exclusive: On Gunny Pop, Chuck DeVore, Car Bombers, Anchor Babies and more!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2509921/posts
Duncan Hunter on GOP & Tea Party Politics, Rick Perry and Ilegal Aliens
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2504213/posts
Duncan Hunter (of course) Supports Arizonas crackdown on Illegal Aliens
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2501797/posts
Duncan Hunter 4/8/10: Obamas Nuke Puke, Stimulating Russia Jobs, and that Evil Oil
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2490025/posts
Duncan Hunter Talks 4/1/10: Shooting Donkeys, Phony v. Real Protests, & McCains border security!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2485034/posts
Duncan Hunter Takes Obama, Biden and Grahamnesty to the Woodshed & More!(Interview 3/19/10)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2475394/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview 3-5-2010: On Obama the Apostrate, The Reagan Doctrine, and Aging Hippies
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2465638/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview 2/24/2010 McCain v Hayworth, OReilly v 2A, w/cameo from Gunny Pop
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2458713/posts
Duncan Hunter Slams the Obama Adminstration over push for Gays in the Military
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2444696/posts
Duncan Hunter Slams Obamas SOTU! 1-28-2010 Interview
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2439864/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview 1/21/2010: Mass. Miracle, Obama, Cheney, Jobs, McCain-Feingold & More!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2435091/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview 1-8-2010: GOP Primary Politics, JD Hayworth, Panty Bomber and FOOTBALL
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2425011/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview - Dec. 18, 2009: On Christmas Blessings, the Gay Agenda, and Don Rumsfeld
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2412548/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview - Dec 8, 2009: On Huckabee, the EPA, GOP Amnesty Hacks, and Harry Reid!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2404824/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview 12-01-2009: Obamas Weak Speech, SEALS, ClimateGate, and Shrinking Uncle Sam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2398503/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview 11-17-09: Terrorist Trials in NY, Amnesty, Sarah Palin and More!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2391044/posts
Duncan Hunter Interview 11-10-09: Gunny Pop, Afghanistan, Terrorism & Political Correctness!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2384405/posts
Duncan Hunter Nov. 4, 2009: On the 2009 Elections, Global Warming Alarmists, and Ronald Reagan!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2378862/posts
Duncan Hunter October 27, 2009: On ObamaCare, RomneyCare and Americans!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2372627/posts
Duncan Hunter 10/9/09 Interview. Bomb Iran, confront China, and work to defeat Socialism!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2360735/posts
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Man, yer quick!
Thanks for the links Piss. it is to bad a great man like this will never be allowed anywhere near the Rep. nomination. Just my 2 cents but I believe the ‘one world’ string pullers, the Bilderberg group and the Tri-Lateral Commision will never allow it, ever.
I’m not sure about the illuminati and such, but I know he’s the GOP’s and the China Appeasers and the Democrats worst nightmare.
yep, those 3 also.
Hooray! DLH is writing his book! The best news I’ve heard in ages! I can hardly wait to get it, though I can’t read books anymore. Perhaps I can ngage someone to read it to me. Go Duncan Hunter!
Books on tape! They also have Kindles and you can display the words as big as you need them!
B4DH
Thanks for keeping this up.
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