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To: Tublecane
"“Furthermore, the 14th Amendment deals with ‘citizenship’ and not ‘natural born citizen’ and you know that’”

I think you know natural born citizen means nothing but citizen from birth. But you don’t like Obama, so you’ll say anything.

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I think you like Obama, and therefore are more than happy to see the office of the Presidency usurped. For someone like you, it's ALL about party politics...the Constitution be damned!

Original French version of Vattel's Law of Nations:

Emer de Vattel, Le droit des gens, ou Principes de la loi naturelle, vol. 1 (of 2) [1758]

From Chapter XIX, 212 (page 248 of 592):
Title in French: "Des citoyens et naturels"
To English: "Citizens and natural"

French text (about citizens): "Les citoyens sont les membres de la societe civile : lies a cette societe par certains devoirs et soumis a son autorite, ils participent avec egalite a ses avantages."
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To English: "The citizens are the members of the civil society: linked to this society by certain duties and subject to its authority, they participate with equality has its advantages."
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French text (about "natural" born citizens): "Les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parens citoyens"
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To English, gives this: "the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents who are citizens"

The framers knew exactly who a natural born citizen was. One born in country, to citizen parentS. The same definition mentioned in 5 SCOTUS cases, early law books and read into the Congressional record by none other than the framer of the 14th Amendment.

61 posted on 06/15/2010 2:10:43 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

“I think you like Obama, and therefore are more than happy to see the office of the Presidency usurped.”

Of course you would. People who disagree with you must not have good reason, but rather are motivated by adverse politically ideology. Perchance are you a deconstructivist literary professor?


63 posted on 06/15/2010 2:15:26 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: rxsid

Enough with you Birthers and your ugly cut-and-paste posts. How about you drop the talking points and address things other people are discussing for once.

In every exchange it’s Vattel this, Vattel that. He’s not the key to the universe. Use your words.


65 posted on 06/15/2010 2:17:24 PM PDT by Tublecane
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