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To: Danae

Some of the founders spoke French. If they had wanted to follow Vattel, they would have used his words, or their English transliterations - ‘native’ or ‘indigenous’. They would NOT have created a new phrase to capture words that were already available in transliterated fashion.

OTOH, if they wanted it to cover the same meaning as “Natural Born Subject” - a phrase from English law - they would have needed to change the last word, since there was no King for an American to be a subject to - thus Natural Born Citizen. A phrase suiting a Republic.

Sorry, but your argument doesn’t hold up. There was a well known phrase in English law that met their needs, and they adapted it to a Republic.

The only reason birthers bring up Vattel is that when they first started quoting him, they didn’t realize that NBC wasn’t found in any translation of Vattel until after the Constitution. Rather than admit their error, they pretend the phrase WAS found in Vattel, and lie to those who don’t know the facts.


113 posted on 06/15/2010 5:14:59 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Mr Rogers

You know Mr. Rodgers, you are absolutely uneducated.

Have you read the letters of Ben Franklin? Have you read the Federalist papers? ALL OF THEM?

You don’t have a CLUE what you are talking about and it’s so obvious to someone who HAS.

Do us all a favor, write your “bye FR” paper now and spare us your insanity. There is no currency that you can offer that will buy it back for you.


116 posted on 06/15/2010 5:31:14 PM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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