China’s Military Threatens America: ‘We Will Hurt You’

What - you trying to embarass Wal-Mart? see how far that gets you around these parts ;^)

Lower our taxes and make energy available without additional hardship
and they would be owing us. America is killing it's own damn sovernty through
political freeking correctness. Damn you F-N RATs and RINOs.

I don’t suppose there is any way to determine how much progress they have made in developing EMP or in developing a nuclear arsenal that is the same size as ours or larger. As recently has 5 years ago, I had thought for sure we had by far the largest nuclear arsenal ever, but now our administrations have put ours in the decline and the Chinese are likely working overtime to build it up. I read a report once of some loony “scientist” who honestly wanted us to cut our arsenal down to like 15 nukes or so.

The one saving grace is that even if we are back to the Cold War times, at least the Chinese govt has the sense not to try and create a situation where their whole nation goes up in nuclear smoke, like the Soviets and much unlike the Irani Ayatollahs. Even with our reduced arsenal now I imagine they would not be that likely to risk something like that, though of course North Korea makes for a great proxy. Hopefully we can get a Congress in the nearest elections that will start bringing the nukes back up.

The Chinese do not have to possess these capabilities. Russia has them, and if Russia and China acts in concert against us, we are screwed.

I would concur with that. But remember that Russia even un der Stalin had the good sense not to force itself into a nuke war with the US and even though the current Govt is Soviet in all but name they still have the good sense not to bring nuclear winter on their people int he process of destroying us. It is clear that there is not a lot at all we could do against a combined Russian Chinese offensive, to say the least, but there are intelligent ways around it.

We first need to work improve how we handle this unstable affair on our part-no more backstabbing Russians on things that they are clearly right on, i.e. the Kosovo independence issue. We need to stop sympathizing with terro groups that threaten the livlihoods of ordinary Russians, a key example of course being the Chechens. We should be working to encourage a true Judeo-Christian revival on the part of Americans and Russians- I am sure that a collusion with China’s COmmunists against America is the very last thing true God loving Russian Orthodox want, so we should in every possible way help Orhtodox Russians get their nation back, i.e. by encouraging them to gain more political power through voting blocs and other methods. I try not to view things through too much rose colored glasses, but I am also optimnistic that Russians and even their gov’t will see the complete fallacy of colluding with Iran and helping them go nuclear and will work against it.

The point is, Americans and Russians do have a common Judeo-Christian heritage to draw together on and in fact have often taken their Christian heritage much more seriously than other Europeans have. And so we can even see that from Russian posters on this forum in the past (although my post date suggests I am brand new, I have been following this forum and even posting in othe rnames before for quite some time now ) so there are many things we can and should do to bring these two powers closer together.

“Barry and the Democrat Party are destroying us from the inside.”

Yes, Beijing, just as was predicted and planned by Lenin, and later by the communists in France who trained DungXiaoPing and others. It is called, as you well know, “The Communist Internationalle,” and is exactly the same plan that made the Russians use 85% of their KGB budget in the USA (1950-1970) to turn America’s young people into dope-headed hippies and Rockers......

......Same sources Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin use for the “music” on their programs for some reason........

Oh, and the same that trained the people who raised up Barack Obama!!

Relax, Beijing, you have your ideological friend in the White House.

The best thing the Chinese leadership can do now is to avoid trouble with the U.S. America is now in a state of terminal decline, this condition pretty much happens to any democratic republic after a couple of centuries.

If the Chinese wait for another generation, the U.S may well devolve into an oligarchy or a dictatorship incapable of global power projection.

Hitler didn’t have 2 billion people, a potential 200 million man army, and an arsenal of nuclear weapons. All empires that believed they were invincible have fallen, and this one is no different.

“Hitler didn’t have 2 billion people, a potential 200 million man army, and an arsenal of nuclear weapons”

And the lack of etiquette. The Chinese will not follow any rules of war, the only one to them is that the only rule is to win.

The US responses should be to buddy up to India and Singapore...

Singapore wouldn't be interested in becoming part of a US "picket line" - they have very good relations with China and a Swiss-like attitude toward Asian political differences.

The hope has always been that in leaving revolutionary Communism behind, China will mature into a giant Singapore, rather than taking a turn into a militarist. Imperial Japan-like stance. I still think this is the more likely outcome, but the fiscal profligacy of the United States over the last two decades has deprived us of most of the tools we could have used to encourage them in this direction. Now, we just have to hope they get there on their own, and internal dissent and economic disruption don't elevate a new Tojo to leadership in China.

“DH: Yeah, I think what we have to remember is that China is still run by the tough old boys in the Politburo, who are fairly ruthless people. And they are still adherents to communism and communist ideology. And their industrial base is growing by leaps and bounds, fueled by American trade dollars. And that industrial base is turning out a fairly formidable military machine.

They are out-producing us in submarines by more than 5 to 1, if you include the Russian purchases they are making of Kilo Class submarines. They are making a new multi-role fighter. They are making about 100 ballistic missiles per year, many of which are staged, incidentally, in the area around the Taiwan Straights.

And so China is stepping into the superpower shoes that the Soviet Union left, clearly. And our ‘optimists’, including those who have lots of commercial transactions with China, involve themselves in pollyannish discussions about how the Chinese are going to be a benign trading partner and will ultimately be a cooperative member of the Western economic community, and will not be a belligerent with respect to security issues. It’s rubbish.

The problem is neither one of those ‘hopes’ – and that’s all they are is ‘hopes’ – are being realized. The Red Chinese are hitting us with a sledge hammer in terms of taking our manufacturing base away from us. They are not interested in realistically valuating their currency. They are maintaining a major advantage in trade as a result of that. And they are maintaining their value added tax which they use to subsidize their own exports to us and to penalize our exports to them.

And with the new found cash which they are receiving from the United States, they’re purchasing sophisticated military equipment from the Russians and they are making lots of making lots of military equipment themselves.

Red China is fast becoming a military superpower and every now and then we get jolted back to reality as we did when that American aircraft was forced down and they pried open the cockpit with bayonets. These folks are tough. They’re brutal. They’re communists. They brutalize their own people. And they are not necessarily an extremely stable government.

We naively work through China to handle that crazy aunt in the attic - that is North Korea. And I think they’ve played that card intentionally against us, because they haven’t handled North Korea.”

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