Posted on 06/11/2010 9:14:42 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
He lies about everything. It is “who he is”. Liberals that support this assclown share the same disorder. Remember Reid and his great idea to raise money “with” Rush as recorded on the Senate floor? It is a mental disorder.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
>”Why can’t employed people pay $30 for a physical? Why no copay. As a small business owner who purchases health insurance, this will more than “nudge costs up”. For small business policies, which are already incredibly high, this will increase our costs quite a bit. $100 per month (my guesstimate) per employee adds a lot to the burden for a small business”<
When you make up a new “Right”, it’s gotta be free. It doesn’t matter that someone else is paying for you to have that Right, but why make that an issue? /s
If anyone is still surprised by this cloak and dagger
operation to hijack healthcare please work for a conservative candidate.
Nope, all we need is enough votes to deny funding, although enough to override would be so nice. Nobama can’t pull the operating money out of his hat.
I’ve never understood why the emphasis isn’t on simply protecting people from financial ruin in the case of a major medical emergency instead of giving cheap office visits.
Yeah, preventive care is important, but people need to understand that doctor visits cost money and since your health is important, it’s worth spending money on. Budget a couple thousand a year to cover checkups and tests. You’ll either pay it to the government and insurance companies or you pay it to the doctor.
Leave insurance for surgery and disease treatment.
I totally agree.
How does the Government spend money? By passing appropriations bills. How is a bill enacted? It becomes a law when 10 days pass or the President signs it. And if he vetoes the bill, it doesn't pass, and the defunding does not pass. Meaning continuances go into effect.
To repeal you need the President; defunding won't cut it, because the money is already allocated (remember, the budget for 2011 is passed before the elections this year).
and so it begins....
That’s how catastrophic plans with HSAs work. I have one of those plans, with a $10,000 deductible and an HSA I’ve built up to cover that deductible. I pay most of my small costs with the interest I earn from my HSA.
This is the exact type of plan that is needed to get the health insurance cost escalation under control. Unfortunately this is the exact type of plan that Obamacare will eliminate first as it’s not “responsible”, it doesn’t hold your hand for everything and requires the individual to be responsible rather than the piece of paper called an insurance policy.
Yep and Obama says “...and I promise if you like your current healthcare plan, you can keep it... (a plan, which won’t be there...suckers).
If Congress doesn’t vote to repeal this nightmare, then Congress may not exist by 2013. Secession! Civil War!
You may know better than me, but I don’t think that is how “defunding” works.
Its not a Bill that says “we are not funding this program”, the defunding comes about because the spending authorization is simply NOT included in appropraitions. Nobama could veto the Appropraitions Bill, but because he has no Line Item Veto, the entire spending Bill is vetoed and he will in effect shut down that portion of government covered by the Bill. Of course this scenario requires us to regain the majority in the House.
If we regain majority in the house, nobama is hamstrung. If we regain a Veto Proof majority he’s a Lame Duck.
But over 165,000,000 of us want a free ride from the 535.
Just another part of the plan to spread the wealth around.
Obama needs to be impeached, tried for treason and shipped to Gitmo to rot with his buddies.
Everyone who voted for 0bama should be jailed for treason.
How many “tit-for-tat” votes are needed?
In other words, “pass OUR X bill or you will get NO cooperation from us on your Y or Z bill.”
“Actually the man just wants you dead, like his Islamofascist buddies.”
and he wants ALL your money and property to redistribute for more votes once you are dead (some while you are still alive).
How long before the government gets dibs on our organs?!
The appropriations bill for 2011 - what funds the Government through September 2011 - is passed in September/October of this year. Before the GOP could take over. The budget for Obamacare for the next 16 months is fully under the control of the Democrats, and is all that’s needed.
Obamacare is really starting to roll by the end of 2011, which would be when the first GOP appropriations bills would pass. And remember, Obamacare spends essentially zero on care until 2013, but it has massive restructuring of regulations and business in anticipation of the payout starting in 2013. The Sec HHS is the one who sets these rules, and uses existing funds to do so. Meaning that business must start meeting new laws, but the Government doesn’t have to spend any dollars yet.
It’s a brilliant - if sadistic - plan to force Obamacare regardless of what happens in November. All the required spending will be done by September 2011 before a GOP majority gets into the Congress, and regulations are completely set and operating literally 3 weeks before a new President could be sworn in.
Go read the dates chosen in the bill, and then ask yourself what’s so important about those specifically chosen dates. They were chosen to guarantee that the next Congress can do nothing about the implementation of the plan.
No, the only way to scale back Obamacare is to get a full bill through the White House. And the soonest that can happen is 3 weeks after the entire plan - including the payouts of benefits, the restructuring of all plans, the closing/consolidating of insurance agencies - starts running.
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