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1 posted on 06/04/2010 7:39:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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On Morning Joe this morning, Joe was going on and on about how we have to use alternative energy sources and that the president should order a 45 mpg CAFE. Most Americans don’t want to drive those little “Smart” cars. I know I don’t. This is a very good article. Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 06/04/2010 7:44:14 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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He misses only one thing. Solar One, the tower thermal-based solar power plant, had a liquid sodium storage mechanism to provide power 24/7.

I still say we go nuclear as the stabilizer, with solar, wind and anything else to provide peak.


3 posted on 06/04/2010 7:45:56 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Good article - thanks for posting.


5 posted on 06/04/2010 7:48:28 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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No environmental impact here..


7 posted on 06/04/2010 7:49:53 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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The few times that I’ve seen windmill farms, most of them weren’t turning. Oops.


8 posted on 06/04/2010 7:51:06 AM PDT by JPG (Mr. Gore, we have a warrant for your arrest...put your hands behind your back.)
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Michigan is a beautiful microcosm of the problems with renew ables.

First we have the legislature forcing electric and gas producers to reduce output.

Then we have the state refusing to grant permits to clean coal plants citing a lack of demand for the energy they would produce.

While we’re refusing the clean coal fired plants, we’re giving permits for wind farms despite the lack of demand that prevents the coal fired plants.

The wind farms are all at the low end of the 1 to 7 potential energy scale that the state has adopted.

Meanwhile we have some 300 unused dams in Michigan. Many of those could probably be fitted with turbines to produce energy to feed into the grid. They wouldn’t be huge producers but they would help. Instead we’re tearing the dams out as fast as we can.

Basically it all comes down to being forced to use wind at a much higher cost.


9 posted on 06/04/2010 7:53:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Very good article!!

Even an idiot like me could understand it!


10 posted on 06/04/2010 7:54:20 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist" - I Hate Mexico)
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Let’s see that is 40 watts a square foot never happen!


13 posted on 06/04/2010 7:58:44 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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One suggestion for “storage” a teacher made to our class was to build reservoirs and pump water “up” to them during off peak hours using the excess power from windmills, solar, etc. During peak hours, the water can be used for hydroelectric power. Conversion efficiency is an issue, but if the power is just going to be wasted anyways... and of course it shares the hydroelectric issues.


15 posted on 06/04/2010 8:03:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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"Some, though, are slowly coming around, because nukes don't produce greenhouse gasses." --------------------------------------------------------------------- Photobucket Those clouds are water vapor.....the predominant greenhouse gas
16 posted on 06/04/2010 8:04:42 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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Whose bright idea was it (Jimmy Carter) to take one third of our nation’s corn crop to create fuel? I’m not pointing fingers (Jimmy Carter), but this was a bad, bad idea.

Jimmy Carter and W.

22 posted on 06/04/2010 8:19:18 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Real world physics is a hard task master.


28 posted on 06/04/2010 9:25:35 AM PDT by Western Phil
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“The Idiot’s Guide to Why Renewable Energy is Not the Answer”

Well I am hoping that solar works well at least for individual homes because I plan to get that for my new house within a year of closing. Not that I am worried about the environment, I am just not looking forward to the power bills we will see once Obummer passes Cap & Tax.


35 posted on 06/04/2010 11:46:30 AM PDT by Grunthor
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ping


36 posted on 06/04/2010 11:46:31 AM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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bttt


39 posted on 06/04/2010 11:50:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't go chasing waterfalls.....)
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Good article. This is what happens when feel-good environmentalism slams into physics, chemistry and mathematics.

The points made by the author are points I've been using for years when I hear libtards go on their "renewable energy" kicks.

Wind farms? Only when it's windy, and never near actual people.

Ethanol? Who ever said it's a good idea to start burning our food.

Biomass? There ain't enough landmass.

Solar? On average, it's unavailable 50% of the time.

They have conniptions when I tell them the only real long-term solution we have is nuclear fission. They really go nuts when I tell them the French are the best at it.

42 posted on 06/04/2010 12:34:54 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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Actually geothermal is not limited to places close to volcanism. The earth gets very hot the deeper you go. Check out the hot dry rock geothermal concept:

http://www.lanl.gov/orgs/ees/ees11/geophysics/other/hdr.shtml

I know they have had a lot of technical hurdles getting this concept to work, but if they ever did it would be another cog in the energy solution.


47 posted on 06/04/2010 2:18:14 PM PDT by epithermal
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