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Why Impeaching Obama is a Bad Idea
Conservative Hideout 2.0 ^ | 5-31-10 | Matt

Posted on 05/30/2010 8:07:03 AM PDT by ConservativeHideout

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To: ConservativeHideout

Impeachment without the possibility of 67 votes to convict is just political beating off.

I was gung-ho for impeaching the Sink Emperor, but I didn’t understand the GOP then the way I do now.


61 posted on 05/30/2010 9:04:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question)
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To: 4rcane

“if we to go for impeachment, we better make sure we have the votes and that it will pass, otherwise a failure will give Obama the victory like with Clinton”

Oh contraire! By attempting to impeach Obama on a number of issues that violate the constitution the mainstream media will, for once, have to cover them. This would expose the truth to the naive public and possibly turn the sentiment against this Marxist.


62 posted on 05/30/2010 9:06:09 AM PDT by doc
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

You are correct. The Democrats will find it necessary to manuever 0bama out of the White House. The sooner the better.


63 posted on 05/30/2010 9:09:46 AM PDT by abclily
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To: ConservativeHideout
I would have to disagree. It has the trappings of legality, but it is completely a political process. It is prompted by the House, whose political makeup will tell the tale. It is tried by the Senate, and again, politics will play a role. It never gets out of the political process.

WE THE PEOPLE made the decision our country was to be a nation governed by the rule of law not political winds. Either we are or we are not.

If the current fashion is to not obey our laws, but to follow the "politics of the day" then we need to get back on course or. . . can you spell "Banana Republic"
64 posted on 05/30/2010 9:12:26 AM PDT by mstar
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To: Frantzie

Actually I am wathning more than ever. I am no fool. I just can’t take what is going on so I have to escape. I will not go to the movie theater so Redbox has me on frequent renter status. They are putting a machien on my front porch Tuesday to save me time.


65 posted on 05/30/2010 9:13:29 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't go chasing waterfalls.....)
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To: Night Hides Not
If there's a legal chance to get Obama out of office before 2012, DO IT! This train's headed for the cliff, and he's the engineer.

I must admit to being torn. My feeling prior to the election was that an Obama win would showcase socialism like never before. Let's have the big fight during this generation, while we still have people who remember freedom. 20 years from now, USA would be Greece and the Teacher's unions, taking to the streets yelling, "I don't CARE if there is no money! I want my goodies!"

In this, I have been correct. We are fighting back, while with McCain there would have been no fight against his incrementalism. Is Obama doing damage? Yes. Can it be fixed? I don't know.

Is it prudent to pull Obama out (assuming a circumstance under which he is actually removed) before the mushy middle has learned that liberalism is destructive? Will the lesson learned be that Obama was a bad President because he was a crook? (a la, liberalism will still work if we find the right person to administer it) Or Obama was a bad President because he pursued destructive, anti-American, liberal policies and surprise, surprise, happened to be a crook.

The first leaves us with a fight still to be fought. The second settles the issue.

66 posted on 05/30/2010 9:17:38 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I agree, force the dems to do it. They control the congress, that’s the only way he’d get impeached anyway.


67 posted on 05/30/2010 9:18:50 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: driftless2

Get lost, chump! Pull your crap somewhere else.


68 posted on 05/30/2010 9:19:00 AM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: ConservativeHideout
I'd rather see dead fish in prison then obambi impeached
69 posted on 05/30/2010 9:20:55 AM PDT by KingNo155
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To: mstar

I think that you’re pushing that point to the breaking point. Are you assuming that someone is going to talk? This administration has more control over information than any in modern history. No leaks, and they don’t even talk to the media. Who is going to testify truthfully?

Everyone will say that Obama knew nothing of this. They might fire a minion, maybe even Emanuel, but Obama will stay in office.

If you want to impeach, you’d better have ironclad evidence, and you’d better be able to pull it off.


70 posted on 05/30/2010 9:34:09 AM PDT by ConservativeHideout (Waiting for November...)
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To: ConservativeHideout

I agree. Better to check him in Congress and get Palin in as president in 2012—unless he is found to have truly been overtly treasonous—than to expel him sooner and give another, slightly more stealth Democrat the office in ‘12.


71 posted on 05/30/2010 9:37:18 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ConservativeHideout

Impeaching Obama, would be a waste of times. We know the Democrats don’t care if he committed any crimes, so there would not be, under any circumstances, enough votes to convict.


72 posted on 05/30/2010 9:37:36 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: ConservativeHideout
Hard-right conservatives will ALWAYS think a Democrat president is a liar, crook, evil, the scum of the earth, traitor, etc., and will ALWAYS want to resort to impeachment. The problem is, that card was already played with Clinton. Play that card too often and pretty soon it loses all power and meaning.

If those who post here on FR are any guide to broader hard-right conservative thinking, then one thing is absolutely clear to me. Hard-right conservatives don't have clue one about how to make their message palatable to the broader American public, so they constantly look for end runs around the electoral process.

73 posted on 05/30/2010 9:38:29 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Note to rigid ideologues: Your own point of view in a mirror is quite a limited window on the world.)
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To: ConservativeHideout

Clinton was impeached. Impeachment doesn’t mean he’s out of office, right?


74 posted on 05/30/2010 9:41:23 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: ConservativeHideout

I don’t believe this post. IF anything we’ve learned about tactics, and the one thing conservatives have failed to do that the other side does very successfully, is that you hit the enemy on all fronts. You create new fronts, and hit them there. You make them use all their resources dealing with every issue being driven home. You keep them off balance. The MSM press to keep credibility will have to cover them somewhat. It will cause Obumble to be under that much more heavy stress and possibly snap while cameras are rolling.

This is why I don’t believe this post. we listen to this poster, we wind up doing what we always do, giving the other side breathing room and time to regroup. So what if Biden becomes president. At least nobody will in the democrat party, the media or the pundits will be going around saying what a smart guy he is as everyone knows he’s an idiot. He won’t get much cover especially because he can’t help but say stupid things anytime a camera’s on him. At least Biden doesn’t have a foreign-bred hate of the country like Obama does. We can survive a Biden, if crap really got bad I really believe he’d know he was in the deep sh1t and tell the people under him “you do what you gotta do”. Besides after four years of Obumble and Plugs, there is no doubt we have the WH back with a conservative grown up in charge.


75 posted on 05/30/2010 9:41:42 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: screaminsunshine

???


76 posted on 05/30/2010 9:42:02 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: doc
This would expose the truth to the naive public and possibly turn the sentiment against this Marxist.

Yeah, and in what reality would that occur? All another conservative-led impeachment of a second Democrat president in a row would accomplish, would be to turn wide swaths of the American public even further away from the conservative agenda.

77 posted on 05/30/2010 9:43:22 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Note to rigid ideologues: Your own point of view in a mirror is quite a limited window on the world.)
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To: usmcobra

Well, I’m sure not going to hold my breath for this to happen. He may, although I doubt it, get impeached, but I’m betting he won’t leave office until next election.


78 posted on 05/30/2010 9:45:42 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Wolfstar

Perhaps you would deign to explain what ‘THE conservative agenda’ is? ... You seem large on denigrating conservatives who want to remove the cancer from the Oval Office, yet have not offered anything constructive in opposition to trying to remove an affirmative action socialist. Why not try to offer an alternative notion of how to save the dying Republic?


79 posted on 05/30/2010 10:04:58 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: ConservativeHideout

This article is correct.

Doesn’t make sense to impeach him. He’s doing a great job of making himself look horrible. Better to clean house by elections in 2010 and 2012.

Impeachment will only make the Right look like aggressors.

Remember, the MSM is still in leftist hands.


80 posted on 05/30/2010 10:22:38 AM PDT by NYCslicker
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