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To: Larry Lucido; humblegunner; iloveamerica1980; Hoodat; gathersnomoss; UnChained; DJ MacWoW; ...
I'm converting to Mormonism to piss off Colofornian

(Hey, thanks for the alert, Humblegunner, to let me know Larry's resorting now to gossipping 'bout me on even taglines...minus a ping...come on, Larry, you've been dotting paperwork protocols for years...the least you could do is exercise FReeper protocol & let me in "on the know" that I've reached the pinnacle of your taglines :) )

Glad you mentioned me...just askin' for the ping...

And particularly glad you did on this thread...as I just posted the following on Wednesday...and since it also involved an 18-wheeler crashing, 'tis perfect time to re-share:

And this is on the up & up (if you know what I mean by "up"):

A pastor is touring the country right now. A Baptist pastor. He's going around the country speaking right now about a car accident he had 21 years ago...11:45 a.m., Jan. 18, 1989...if the angelic archives are correct...(and they always are...genealogists would just love them!)...anyway, I digress.

This pastor was dead in that car of his. For 1.5 hours and seconds beyond that. One side of an 18-wheeler completely rolled over him and his car...Government tax dollars at work...as a prison allowed an inmate to drive the 18-wheeler to do a food pick-up...the inmate got going too fast, swerved to avoid bumping into a car in front of him on an old bridge built during Roosevelt work project days in East Texas.

Well, he "head-on'd" this poor pastor, smacked the car he was trying to avoid and came to rest hitting yet a third vehicle. (What a scene that was!)

Nobody was significantly hurt. Except the pastor. His left forearm was severed when he raised it up to protect his face/head & was hurled into the backseat. One leg had 30 holes in it. Four inches of his femur (thigh) bone was smashed & left the vehicle, never to be found.

The prayers came "up" above fairly quickly. From all over. The authorities called this pastor's church (they just didn't tell them he was "dead.") This pastor's church got out the local Houston phonebook and called every church they could, asking for prayer. They then started calling beyond Houston, asking them to pray.

And then the Lord sent a personal intercessor to this pastor. Yet another pastor, coming from the same pastor's conference and stuck in the bridge traffic behind him, came on the scene well after the accident, and asked a police officer if he could pray.

The officer told him, "No," everybody was fine...well, "fine" -- except for the guy in that one vehicle...and well, nothing could be done for him. But this other pastor insisted the Lord was directing him to pray for a victim. He persisted. The police officer told him, "No, you don't understand the driver is dismembered." This other pastor told him, "Well, it can't beat anything I saw in VietNam as a medic there." The police officer finally relented.

The only way to get into the vehicle was from the rear. The pastor was covered with a sheet. Since it was rural Texas, they'd only been waiting for the coroner to arrive to pronounce him dead, so they could remove the body. The only apparent non-injured part of this driver was his right shoulder, so the pastor touched him there as he prayed for him. So the other pastor commenced praying for the victim, and alternated that with singing hymns.

Well, the solo hymn-singing then turned into a duet. The victim began singing with him.

Now, I need to re-emphasize, this pastor had been dead 1.5 hours. The paramedics had already tried to do everything for him, and had long since given up.

In fact, the other pastor, upon hearing the accompaniment from the guy in the front seat, had trouble convincing the police officer that the victim was alive.

Well, it took them a while to extract the victim. (I mean the way you remove a live victim 'tis a bit distinct than a dead one). They took him to a local clinic. No help there. His injuries were too severe. They took him to the closest rural hospital. They did triage, but couldn't address his major needs. They would have flown him in a flight-for-life 'copter 'cept it was pourin' hard down from "above" that day.

So two ambulance paramedics drove him down the clogged Houston-bound highways and freeways...80 miles...not delivering him til 6:15 p.m.

He remained in a hospital 13 months. He's had 34 major surgeries. He was told he would never walk again. (He walks). He was told he would never have use of his left arm/left hand. (He now uses it...'twas reattached and they pulled parts from what was left of his healthy part to do the surgeries for that).

And as he goes around and speaks, he tells what it was like to be outside the gates of heaven moving toward the inner gate of heaven...a place he didn't reach...as he was "called back" to earth.

But if you talk to him, or listen to his testimony, he'll tell you what he saw and heard. And one of those things he heard was the rush created by flapping wings above him. I'm "told," that coupled with the absolutely incredible music, it's all quite Heaventabulous to be spiritually "sensate" to what replaces your earthly sensation of hearing here.

71 posted on 05/29/2010 7:49:00 PM PDT by Colofornian (As the LDS once were, the fLDS are; as the fLDS are, the LDS will become.)
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To: Colofornian
“He will cover you with His feathers and under His wings you will find refuge” Psalm 91:4

I too had a personal experience of this kind.

72 posted on 05/29/2010 8:05:54 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Colofornian

Thank you for sharing that FRiend.

What man deems ‘impossible’, God says “nothin’ to it”.

The Lord be with you.


73 posted on 05/29/2010 8:07:41 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Colofornian

I read that book. Great testimony about the power of prayer and obedience.

Not sure what the Larry and Mormonism comment is about, though.


76 posted on 05/29/2010 8:54:13 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Colofornian

Thanks for the ping.


77 posted on 05/29/2010 10:35:45 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Colofornian

More with better credibility than some others: http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/Amazing/ (various amazing testimonies)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3682855866783766146 (Glimpse of Eternity with Ian McCormack: stung by box jellyfish)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4136610474021109864 (Dr Maurice Rawlings - NDE – Interviews: To Hell and Back; including an atheist)
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=near+death+experiences+habermas&sitesearch=video.google.com (Research NDE)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6547221602055506348&q=mickey+robinson&total=57&start=0&num=50&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 ( mickey robinson — air crash to Christ)
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=390590177647370865&hl=en Heaven & Hell Accounts - Final Destiny
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3754387560159309665 “(Roman Gutierrez — “Twice” dead)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-129730594754378960 (Frank Perez Testimony of Deliverance)
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-2334132798216105638&hl=en (Channel 7 news — man raised form dead after 40 minutes)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1694635918884432260 (23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8786747219178188305 Matthew Botsford - To Hell and Back

See also http://www.freecdtracts.com/ But prove all things by the Scriptures.


78 posted on 05/30/2010 4:23:39 AM PDT by daniel1212 ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out " (Acts 3:19))
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To: Colofornian; humblegunner
Hey buddy, I poked you on your own threads a few times with that tagline. :-) But once I'm done being Mormon I'll be converting to Catholicism, and then to Presbyterianism (it's predestined).

And while I've seen some hellacious accidents, I've never seen one quite like what you described. Aside from Houstonians being a tough lot, prayers definitely help.

81 posted on 05/30/2010 8:17:42 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (I'm converting to Mormonism to piss off Colofornian. But I'll be going commando.)
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