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O'Reilly's Culture Warriors Surrender to the Culture
Bloggers and Personal ^ | 28 May 10 | Xzins

Posted on 05/28/2010 6:23:43 AM PDT by xzins

It's always good to get someone on record about their actual position. Such was the case last night with the ladies dubbed by Bill O'Reilly as "Culture Warriors", Gretchen Carlson and Juliet Huddy This time we weren't talking about Miley Cyrus on a pole or little dancing girls in stripper clothing.

Nope. We were confronted with issues of the day: abortion, homosexuality, capital punishment, and adultery.

Shields high, swords brandished, the culture warriors charged into the fray and....rolled over.

About abortion, we now know that "choice" is their preferred word and that "private matter" is as bold as they're going to get. Culture Warrior Courage Grade: F+

About adultery the ladies courageously sided with the overwhelming number of poll respondents who don't like it even a little bit. Glimmer of Hope Courage Grade: B

Regarding capital punishment there's the feeling from our Amazons that it will save litigation money, so siding with the general population in the poll, the ladies did OK, but we find warriorette reasoning a bit fuzzy, morally speaking. Courage of Conviction Grade: C-

Homosexuality revealed the ladies to be liberals of the "we haven't a clue what morality is" variety. Without reservation, they agreed that homosexuality is just fine. Courage of Understanding Grade: F-

In short, we can say that the "Culture Warriors" are pro-choice, pro-homosexuality, pro-pragmatism liberals. It's a bit sad, really. And not terribly courageous.

They don't realize that morality has to do with HARM, and that those things that harm the individual, the community, or the society are morally unacceptable.

The poor homosexual is having his life cut short by decades due to the harm of his behavior. The adulterer is killing the heart of others and turning his own into a narcissistic concrete shell. The society incapable of punishing murder with execution is demonstrating that it doesn't consider the harm of someone taking your life to be all that important.

Finally, those who would steal the life of our unborn posterity indicate that they really don't mind doing the harm of murder themselves, if that's what it takes. Quibbling over when "life" begins is the same as the stupid hunter who sees the brush move and having his partner say, "We don't know what it is; let's kill it anyway."

Culture Warriors surrendered last night. To the culture. To darkness.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; culture; homosexuality; moralabsolutes; oreilly
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To: BlackElk

Welcome back, BlackElk. Is all now well with you?


21 posted on 05/28/2010 7:41:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

anyone notice huddy’s “upgrades” ?


22 posted on 05/28/2010 7:55:43 AM PDT by isom35
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To: isom35

I was saddened by Huddy’s response about having a child out of wedlock. She indicated she might just do that. Said a little bit about finding the right man, but backed off it.

Her personal life has probably been a disappointment in terms of finding the right mate to have kids with, but to abandon the idea altogether that the biological parents are best suited to raise their own children?

Sounded to me like she spoke from a serious, serious depression.


23 posted on 05/28/2010 7:58:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

everyone is soft of homosexuality today

i used the word “f*g” here yesterday and the post was yanked.

i usually say caker


24 posted on 05/28/2010 8:04:18 AM PDT by wardaddy (never been particularly pious but I stand with Franklin Graham...bigtime...you betcha...ya'll)
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To: wardaddy

America’s been sold the line that homosexuality’s about personal lifestyle choice.

It isn’t: it’s about suicide....moderately slow suicide.


25 posted on 05/28/2010 8:11:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

According to these polls, cheating on your wife is less moral than killing babies. And who were the % that said adultery is ok?


26 posted on 05/28/2010 8:51:03 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: xzins; wagglebee; little jeremiah; scripter; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Buggman; Dr. Eckleburg
The thing I notice in their responses is they present a pattern biased towards gender not society as a whole.

Abortion they were the typical wishy washy feminists not wanting responsibility for their actions, so they were okay with "choice".

The double standard of "modern" women is galling.

If the issue affects women they don't want any criticism of behavior or punishment. If the issue affects men then it is okay and we should be more "nuanced" in our views. For example, they are opposed to adultery, which just happens to affect women and children in a negative way more so then men. However, they are for capital punishment which is applied to men in much greater percentage and they aren't opposed to homosexuality which undermines the distinctive masculine role in society.

27 posted on 05/28/2010 8:52:22 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: xzins; Grunthor
Free Republic gives me the means to decipher the images that the TV puts out. Nothing like a neighborhood gathering chewing on something to get ideas about what it actually means.

Man oh man this is true! First it was Rush on the radio and realizing that a huge portion of the productive population held similar opinions. Now it's FR. Whatever the event you can find a thread and see some very well thought out analysis that you won't find anywhere else.

28 posted on 05/28/2010 8:55:52 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Yep. I know that many of us have a circle of those to whom we post, but the open forum invites anyone to jump in and offer an opinion.

It’s a great discussion forum.

And there is no other discussion software that comes remotely close to that of Free Republic.


29 posted on 05/28/2010 9:22:28 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: bronxville

I don’t watch O’Reilly regularly any more but have seen a number of these segments (usually with the Hoover gal). Gretchen is usually fairly solid, but last night was appalling.


30 posted on 05/28/2010 9:26:54 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: xzins
And there is no other discussion software that comes remotely close to that of Free Republic.

I agree. It promotes seeing all the posts and makes it easier for anyone to jump in.

31 posted on 05/28/2010 9:26:58 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights; wagglebee; little jeremiah; scripter; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Buggman; ...
The agenda for the past 50 years has been to destroy the influence of white American men, the only group who poses any real opposition to whatever foul agenda is destroying this country.

So we end up with the greatest living human being on the planet, the most noble, selfless, hard-working, long-suffering, generous and gorgeous person to grace our humdrum lives -- Sandra Bullock.

Again, ignore the fact she married a Nazi, helped to raise what she called in PEOPLE magazine her "little Aryan babies," and threw a gay wedding for her two homosexual buddies years before "Sex and the City 2" made it fashionable.

There's the role model for young women.

Who's the role model for young men?

Janet Reno.

32 posted on 05/28/2010 10:21:41 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: xzins

Not only is it suicide, it’s a psychological disorder, a brain malady, just like the American Psychiatric Association defined it before it wussed-out in 1973 and dropped the definition.


33 posted on 05/28/2010 10:26:45 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: isom35

Huddy looks and sounds like a chain smoker that spends most of her after-work hours trying to get picked up in a bar.


34 posted on 05/28/2010 10:56:41 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: xzins; wagglebee; little jeremiah; scripter; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Buggman; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
I was saddened by Huddy’s response about having a child out of wedlock. She indicated she might just do that. Said a little bit about finding the right man, but backed off it.

I totally agree and like you was very disappointed in their performances. As Huddy was talking about invitro for herself (thumbs down from me), just out of curiosity, what do you all think of the Laura Ingraham approach? Unmarried, she adopted two foreign (already born) kids who presumably may or may not have eventually been adopted by a married couple. I see decent arguments on both sides.

35 posted on 05/28/2010 8:53:06 PM PDT by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks for the pings. I’ll check this out tomorrow.

Been very busy lately.


36 posted on 05/28/2010 8:56:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg

Their desire for children is a natural desire. It follows that a man would be involved in their lives....also nature.

Those two, a man and a woman, by nature will have children and raise them. What prevents the fulfillment of this natural desire by these women? I’m sure there’s a lot to do with personality, right man, personal commitment, etc., but one of the requirements is time. These women have given away the time of their lives to engage in the news industry, and they have no time for mothering.

In that regard, it’s a terrible thing for Laura Ingraham to take on a couple of adopted kids. I’m assuming there’s no man in her life, but I don’t really know if she’s married or not. If, however, there is not one, then she begins an enterprise in raising children in which she doesn’t have the time to devote to them, and the kids only receive a one-sided worldview, the female side. She is depriving them (son or daughter) of the male-sided view. (Research released by Family Research Council last week demonstrated the 4 times greater likelihood of young girls being lesbian who are raised without a Father.)

You can’t send the message to young boys or girls that MEN are not important or that WOMEN are not important. They are the ying and the yang of healthy growth in understanding relationships. Yingless or Yangless, and you have a child crippled to some degree.


37 posted on 05/29/2010 3:46:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Forest Keeper; xzins; wagglebee; little jeremiah; scripter; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Buggman; ...
what do you all think of the Laura Ingraham approach?

I am quite puzzled by Ingraham's approach both to the adoption and the fact that she has never married. She also tends to have conservative lesbians both as friends and guest hosts. Two plus two.

38 posted on 05/29/2010 7:08:14 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; Forest Keeper; Dr. Eckleburg; wagglebee; little jeremiah; scripter; blue-duncan; ...

Nice to get an eye-opener every now and then.

This thread says that those we have thought were our friends are not.

It also explains why so many of these “conservatives” are so quick to jump on the Mitt Romney bandwagon.


39 posted on 05/29/2010 7:15:38 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
It also explains why so many of these “conservatives” are so quick to jump on the Mitt Romney bandwagon.

Well I'd like to jump on it so I could start throwing people off.

40 posted on 05/29/2010 7:20:28 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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