Posted on 05/23/2010 11:06:39 PM PDT by JoeProBono
Edited on 05/23/2010 11:17:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I never watched it from day one the show was stupid!!!
You missed some lousy hours....but you also missed some really great ones.
Its the journey, not the destination.
I was hoping Jack would heroically kill the MiB and sink that damned Island and would wake up in the happy-ever-after AltWorld.
And with that, I'm sorry that you weren't hired to write the final episode because that would have been far more satisfying, in my opinion.
I stopped caring for Locke when he got whiny and uncertain of himself. I started caring for Sawyer again when he got involved with Juliet but that started to fade after she died. I also got tired of Kate. So, like I said, perhaps a big part of my problem with the ending is that the characgters I was supposed to care about, I didn’t care about all that much.
Namaste! :)
The stained glass window makes it very clear that this isn’t a Christian cosmology, despite the “Christian Sheppard” line.
That’s what I thought...I do remember trying to watch the remake last year...just too painful! Now THAT was a waste of my time :)
I’ve been to the island where they found Laura Palmer’s body...
With malice and sarcasm toward none, especially you, let me say I sure enjoy your posts on this subject; they’re informative, insightful and meant to communicate, not to show off. Thanks for what you’ve had to add to these threads.
but Hurley clearly invited him
Sigh...but once they remembered the real world, they understood the sideways world was not real. If that doesn’t satisfy you, so be it. It didn’t bother me.
I haven’t seen any of the other shows you referenced. And, unlike many of this thread’s “experts” will not pass judgement or call them stupid because I haven’t. :-)
Bottom line for me, as I said upthread, it was a great six years of television.
Perfect? Of course not. We’re all flawed. We just don’t all get to land on a magical island to search for our redemption.
Whatever, dude.
Ya, that’s why it was the number one show on TV, it was stupid ... LOL, the show was incredibly awesome and it will never be topped, 20 years from now there will never be anything to compare it too
What do you make of Ben staying outside? Not going into the church? I have some ideas as to why but wonder what others think about that.
As in one of my responses above....he’s waiting on the Rousseaus (Alex and Mummy)
A new thought.....maybe waiting on the blond that Juliet reminded him of way back when. :-)
I don’t think that Ben would be waiting for Alex and Danielle because they really weren’t together on the island and Ben ultimately got them both killed.
Not really sure beyond that.
I watched for 6 years, fascinated by the characters and the way their lives interacted. In terms of story and characters they did a fantastic job. The production quality was also exceptional for TV. In the last few years I found myself watching more to see if they might actually stop leaving everyone lost every week. When they went “sideways” this year and we saw the principal characters still on the island and living back in LA, that was it for me, I couldn't wait for it to end.
I wasn't that disappointed by the idea that they all died in the original crash. It made sense, no-one would survive what we saw as the crash, with the plane busting in half and clearly capable of a landing. Suddenly all the things that didn't add up, could be explained as having happened in an alter reality - purgatory if you like.
I would have preferred a sci-fi kind of resolution, that the island had some strange properties that allowed for time shifts, parallel universes, etc. Maybe in the end they find a way to control what's happening and pull the realities all together.
First, I think the creators wanted to keep us talking about it, so leave a lot unanswered Second, I think they decided to introduce a religious/omnipotent component to the story in order to really build the show’s legacy. The ending had to be bigger than the characters, which was a shame. Instead of flawed characters struggling to find their way in the world, they were lost souls trapped between worlds, and finding a higher truth than mere mortals.
The debate will rage on, and that's exactly what they want. They teased us at the beginning of the year with claims of providing answers. That was about as honest as one of Obama’s campaign promises.
Very good show, yes, one of the greatest, don't think so.
Most of the Others got killed by the smoke monster, so any interest they had in Walt died with them.
Aaron’s most important time to Claire was probably the late pregnancy early birth, the time period when she decided to keep him, and he was a focal point for developing her relationship with Charlie. Far Kate the important part of Aaron was the personal growth he caused, personal growth which eventually led her to go back to the Island just so she could get Claire and give Aaron to her. And remember in the “real” world she was going with Claire to help her adapt to parenthood. Aaron mattered a lot, he was a driving force in the arc of 3 characters right through the whole plot.
You’re way too addicted to the word prop and you make way too many assumptions about the structure of the pocket heaven. For all we know Jack’s kid was actually Jack as a kid, giving Jack an opportunity to see their relationship from both sides.
By the time they’re in the sinking sub I don’t think Jin or Sun thought they were getting off the Island alive. I mean we know Sun isn’t, and Jin’s probably pretty sure he’s just picking where to die on that Island. And again we don’t know what else is said. It’s the old “they never go to the bathroom” part of story telling, the water wasn’t going up as quickly as they drowned. No they’re “real” people, but it is all part of a story, and the story of Jin and Sun is the story of separation and re-unification, they’re separated at first by their stations in life, then by Sun’s father, then by Jin’s job, then by Sun’s infidelity, then the raft, then the freighter; finally, in the end, both dieing in the sub and in the pocket heaven they are permanently re-united. It’s really quite romantic if you look at it through eyes that aren’t desperate to find fault.
It’s as real as Ben wants it to be. He’s there, he’s there with his “adopted” kid, and her mother, with positive friendly and possibly loving relationships. Maybe they’re the souls of the real people from the Island, maybe they’re not, but it doesn’t really matter. Given all the horrible things Ben did, especially to those two people, a chance to be with them, and be a nice person, and be loved by them, even if it’s pretend them, would have to be a huge temptation. And since he’s in a timeless place with no aging, why not hang around and be a nice person with the one person he ever really cared about.
The Star Trek movie didn’t fork reality into two lines, it shot the old highly screwed up, convoluted to the point of being completely useless to writers, “continuity” which never really had any continuity, in the head to get a nice clean chalkboard to work with. And the end of Lost isn’t all pure symbolism, if it was what you’re saying I wouldn’t be impressed either, the good news is you’ve got it wrong.
So getting his son to understand him, the concert, and all of that other stuff just wasn't real, but all of the memories and emotions associated with that just vanish? Again, I ask, did the son seem fake to him or did he have real emotions for his son? There is an entire movie (The Forgotten starring Julianne Moore) where the main point of the plot is a mother's refusal to forget her child exists even though the memories of that have been wiped from her and everone around her.
Let me ask this, then. Did you care about the character David or have any hopes or expectations about how his story might turn out in the end?
Bottom line for me, as I said upthread, it was a great six years of television.
Despite my disappointment with the ending, I think the story was worth watching but just because I enjoyed most of the six seasons doesn't mean that I need to just automatically accept and enjoy whatever ending they picked for it. I cared about it as a character-based drama and I'm not all that disappointed with many of the mysteries that were left unresolved. What I'm disappointed about was how they treated the characters. In all honesty, I'm happy you were fully satisfied by the ending but I'm trying to explain specifically why I wasn't. That's not to convince you to not like it or to put you down for feeling differently about it than I do so much as to understand why I didn't and other people did.
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