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To: Vendome

>“fourth amendment” is for American Citizens and does not extend to a border containment field or any port or any immigration point, within the U.S.

I disagree. The fourth amendment is to keep police/officials in check; or are you of the opinion that the Bill of Rights is [primarily] NOT about property-rights?

60% of the Bill of rights deals DIRECTLY with property-rights; take the 3rd amendment for example, it was adopted because when the crown forced the colonists to house soldiers frequently “things would turn up missing” or the ladies would be molested.

The 4th was a DIRECT response to the practice of Agents of the Crown authorizing Carte Blanche warrants allowing the lawmen or soldiers to go on “fishing expeditions” to find evidence of guilt.

The 5th Amendment places a check against rampant prosecutions by REQUIRING *ALL* ‘capital, or otherwise infamous crime[s]’ (excepting Army/Navy/Militia during war/public-danger) to go through the Grand Jury.

The 6th Amendment is written the way it is:
1) Ensuring a speedy trial; so that you can’t be held held & held until somebody, somewhere, decides to hear your case. {If time is money, then how much money is stolen by ‘detentions.’}
2) A public trial; so that the public can see [and ensure] that Justice is being done.
3) By a JURY! (Not some Congressional panel, or a collection of LEOs...)
4) “AND TO BE INFORMED OF THE NATURE AND CAUSE OF THE ACCUSATION” — So that you aren’t either held until something can be found AND so you know what’s going on.
5) “to be confronted with the witnesses against him” — So that there are NO “secret sources say you’re a traitor...” type trials.
6) To allow someone to call witnesses in their own favor; YOU ARE NOT TO BE RENDERED INCAPABLE OF DEFENSE.
AND
7) To have an adviser/expert on the law.

Amendment 7 prohibits the government from arbitrarily deciding civil cases when the value is greater than $20.

Amendment 8 prohibits excessive fines; or would you rather live in “Oh, you were jaywalking... that’s a $2,000 fine!”-land?
[/rant]

Yes, I *DO* [and will] ant about the Constitution. It’s WORLDS better than the shit you’re told [by the government] that the government is allowed to do.

I will leave you with this thought from Blaise Pascal:
“It is not permitted to the most equitable of men to be a judge in his own cause.”


81 posted on 05/19/2010 9:10:14 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Here’s the deal, when you are in customs containment or point of immigration, you are not considered in the country, technically.

Besides, they are smartass Canadians who think they are more egalitarian than dumb Americans.

Honestly, I get your point but, that is a point of immigration and it is just not cool, in any country, ever.

Dumbass got what he deserved.

Now if you are trying to find equivalence with LEO’s against Americans, that doesn’t work but, I would agree with you if that was the subject here.

Bottom line is the guy is a Canadian Tool and he should have just cooperated. Now he is going to get interviewed a little harder than he would have every time he crosses.

I hope he never comes back, personally.


83 posted on 05/19/2010 9:17:26 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: OneWingedShark

In response to the rest of your post, the Canadian smart ass, now has the opportunity to avail himself of Constitutional protections.

He didn’t need to put himself in the position of being arrested and then he wouldn’t need to worry about Constitutional provisions.

If they guy isn’t an American, I don’t actually care about his problems.

I’m on my side and no one elses.


85 posted on 05/19/2010 9:21:40 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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