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http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=81LnAMo0_A0C&pg=PR37&dq=Peter+Stephen+Du+Ponceau&hl=en&ei=qEQpTKPlNsi9cbLczYMD&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=naturels&f=false

an introduction to the translator who replaced Fooks..very intresting read..he came to the US at 17 or 18..as an translator for Baron Steuben (sp), translated for Livingston..had a massive library..including Vattel..met Franklin at the age of 17.


218 posted on 06/28/2010 6:55:21 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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very interesting. So is this: Barry v. Mercein 46 U. S. 103 (1847)

Case Footnote:

4. The plaintiff in error being of legeance to the crown of England, his child, though born in the United States during his father’s temporary residence therein – twenty-two months and twenty days – not withstanding its mother be an American citizen, is not a citizen of the United States. It is incapacitate by its infancy from making any present election, follows the legeance of its father, partus sequitur patrem, and is a British subject. The father being domiciled and resident within the dominions of Her Britannic Majesty, such is also the proper and rightful domicil of his wife and child, and he has a legal right to remove them thither. The child being detained from the father, its natural guardian and protector, without authority of law, and writ of habeas corpus ad subjiciendum is his appropriate legal remedy for its restoration to him from its present illegal detention and restraint. Constitution United States, art. 3, sec. 2; Judiciary Act, 1789, sec. 11; Inglis v. Trustees Sailor’s Snug Harbor, 3 Peters, 99; 7 Anne, cap. 5; 4 Geo. III. cap. 21; Warrender v. Warrender, 2 Clar. & Fin. Ap. Ca. 523; Story’s Confl. Laws, 30, 36, 43, 74, 160; Shelford on Marriage, Ferg. Rep. 397, 398.

219 posted on 06/28/2010 7:12:13 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: bushpilot1
very interesting. So is this: Barry v. Mercein 46 U. S. 103 (1847)

Case Footnote:

4. The plaintiff in error being of legeance to the crown of England, his child, though born in the United States during his father’s temporary residence therein – twenty-two months and twenty days – not withstanding its mother be an American citizen, is not a citizen of the United States. It is incapacitate by its infancy from making any present election, follows the legeance of its father, partus sequitur patrem, and is a British subject. The father being domiciled and resident within the dominions of Her Britannic Majesty, such is also the proper and rightful domicil of his wife and child, and he has a legal right to remove them thither. The child being detained from the father, its natural guardian and protector, without authority of law, and writ of habeas corpus ad subjiciendum is his appropriate legal remedy for its restoration to him from its present illegal detention and restraint. Constitution United States, art. 3, sec. 2; Judiciary Act, 1789, sec. 11; Inglis v. Trustees Sailor’s Snug Harbor, 3 Peters, 99; 7 Anne, cap. 5; 4 Geo. III. cap. 21; Warrender v. Warrender, 2 Clar. & Fin. Ap. Ca. 523; Story’s Confl. Laws, 30, 36, 43, 74, 160; Shelford on Marriage, Ferg. Rep. 397, 398. The mother took the case before the Supreme Court and they dismissed her request as they did not have jusrisdiction to hear the case & thus the lower court ruling was upheld. The child ast birth was NOT a US citizen just because it was born on US soil to a mother who was an American prior to her marriage to the British subject.

220 posted on 06/28/2010 7:20:50 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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