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To: rxsid
You have presented a convincing thread that summed up basically says;

The founders were adamant and even underlined certain words that for the purpose of serving as President of the U.S. one must be born here in the US of parents who also were born here.

The new country America, was fresh from being ruled by a king of England and the last thing they would have wanted was parents of a potential potus who were not born in the U.S. and had other or dual citizenship. They made that plain and clear over and over.

Anyone who read your intro and then the first 7 posts will have a hard time arguing differently.

Since we are not allowed to view zeros long form we don't know if obama SR. is the true father or who the true mother is either.

He may well have been born of US parents for all we know. If so he lied to get into office making his Presidency even more null and void no matter what.

Your early documentation from Jay's writing to George Washington:

Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and reasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national govt. and to "declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born citizen.(the word born is underlined in Jay's letter which signifies the importance of allegiance from birth.)

Is it a stretch to infer that Jay meant that both parents should be of U.S. birth as well, considering the times, and our newly formed govt. giving us independence from Eng? Not hardly.

In the New Englander:

the term natural born citizen is used and excludes all persons owing allegiance by birth to foreign states.

This says it all. Intent was to have a potus of whom both parents were born "here".

John Bingham--who was the father of the 14th amendment:

Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the US of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is in the language of your constitution itself a natural born citizen.

Once again we have intent. Parents must be born here--how much does it take?

I love you summation as well;

The point is...the meaning of NBC has always been about being born in the sovereign territory of the US to 2 citizen parents(and those parents who do not owe allegiance to another foreign country.

Brilliant job rxsid!

IMHO to ignore the intent of a newly formed govt. that was seeking independence from a king, not to infer that both parents should be born here is naive and erroneous.

118 posted on 05/19/2010 4:29:37 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911
The founders were adamant and even underlined certain words that for the purpose of serving as President of the U.S. one must be born here in the US of parents who also were born here.

The parents need only be citizens. They generally were born here, but they could just as well be naturalized, as long as it was before their child was born.

120 posted on 05/19/2010 7:42:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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