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Army Birther Doc’s Lawyer: ‘Mounting Evidence’ Obama an Illegal Alien (Barf Alert)
Chattah Box ^ | May 10, 2010 | "Sue"

Posted on 05/11/2010 6:32:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: humblegunner; All

> I’m done with you, you are dismissed.

I accept your resignation. Every man must understand his limitations.

I'll add yours to the pile of other After-Birther scalps collected here.

Now be gone ... maybe you'll have better luck over at Politijab or DU.

141 posted on 05/12/2010 10:42:52 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who the hell is “Sue” at the Chattabox and why is her blabbering important?


142 posted on 05/12/2010 10:43:36 AM PDT by McGruff (So how is that Hopey Changey thingy working out for ya America?)
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To: MHGinTN

Just don’t claim to be a Christian while you hate your fellow man.

“9 Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. 10 Whoever loves his brother abides in the light, and in him there is no cause for stumbling. 11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.”

1 John 2


143 posted on 05/12/2010 10:44:28 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers; All

> None of the people mentioned have EVER suggested that Obama is
> disqualified by his father’s citizenship. None. Ever.

First of all, they are not talking about Obama Sr’s citizenship, ESPECIALLY James Orengo’s quote.

Second of all, JUST LIKE YOU, they all falsely assume that neither Obama Jr's birthplace, nor his status as a British subject, is an issue in regards to how the Framers viewed “natural-born Citizen.”

> You act as though folks didn’t know this BEFORE the election!

The MSM focused on the COLB itself, not Obama Jr's status born as a British subject.

If you can find examples of the MSM truly probing this question before the election, please post them.


144 posted on 05/12/2010 10:54:30 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Mr Rogers
"The courts in Indiana disagree with your legal interpretation."

Is an Indiana state court in any way a federal court? Then what was your point other than disinformation?

145 posted on 05/12/2010 11:05:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: Mr Rogers; MHGinTN; All
> Just don’t claim to be a Christian while you hate your fellow man.


Try this on for size:

“let he who is without sin cast the first stone” — John 8:7

So, keep your fake piety to yourself. You're embarrassing yourself. "Religious Guilt" works as poorly here as does "White Guilt".
We're quite aware of your tactics and tricks ... which is what scares you the most.

Now that all of your feeble attempts at "Religious Guilt" have been thwarted ... please Sister Mary Rogers ... STFU.

146 posted on 05/12/2010 11:12:29 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2; MHGinTN; All

The poster in question spews hate, and yet he also claims to be a Christian and has lots of stuff on his home page about being saved.

I find it contradictory. Just about everyone who posts regularly will lose their temper at times, but he seems to do little else - and has no regrets for the hate he writes.

So yes, I’m calling him (or her) on it. Why?

“12For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

Someone who publicly claims to be a Christian but delights in despising others and calling them names, and saying, “After reading your obamanoid sycophantic crapfest at FR for the past three days, I wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire” needs to repent.

After all, would you kiss your mother with a mouth like that?


147 posted on 05/12/2010 11:21:27 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, state courts are not federal courts. They ruled on a lawsuit saying Obama had improperly been placed on the ballot, and ruled IAW SCOTUS arguments and rulings.

The Supreme Court could have taken a case before Obama was sworn in, but declined to do so.

I would also note that any state legislature COULD pass a law defining NBC as requiring 2 citizen parents, and that would force a court case - but no state legislature will do so. Ever wonder why?


148 posted on 05/12/2010 11:24:40 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers; BP2; mojitojoe
Give it up, pondscum. You have proven yourself to exhibit fake piety. My being a Christian doesn't mean I have to be tolerant toward scum like you.

Tossing the word 'hate' around is another hallmark of you fake piety scum. It is straight out of Alinsky's Rules For Radicals. You're just a run of the mill dishonest obamanoid sycophant. I don't waste the energy to hate soemthing like you.

I find you disgusting, but like some disgusting sludge in the gutter along the street, I just avoid the filth. But you can keep trying to draw attention to yourself in the hope that you will change my mind and I will come down on you with both feet. Not going to happen though, slug. You aren't worth it, especially when you're doing such a great job exposing yourself for the fraud you are.

BP2, joe, do ya suppose Axelgreasy is handing out bonuses for netizens who use more than one Alinsky tactic? Bwahahaha ... maybe the grease spot is trying to fix their overuse of the fallacy of the undistributed middle.

149 posted on 05/12/2010 11:35:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Mr Rogers

So you’re going to ignore the Arizona House’s attempt to make candidates (not just Mr. Obama, but all of them) to prove their eligibility for the White House.


150 posted on 05/12/2010 11:35:44 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Don't care if he was born in a manger on July 4th! A "Natural Born" citizen requires two US parents!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
You never know. OJ Simpson was found not guilty but then ordered to compensate for killing two people.

A few people have been on Death row that have sued the state for wrongful conviction. They were found guilty as well, but were then released and compensated.

A court of law is used to find justice. Until its over, it ain't over. You and I do not know where this will go.

I remember Paula Jones coming out of the closet a few months after Clinton got elected. If I said she would force issues that would end in impeachment, conventional wisdom would declare me insane. But that is what happened.

Suppose Laken finds a sympathetic civil Judge in California who allows discovery? Suppose that Judge then orders Occidental to provide all documentation on Obama, and then they find he applied as a foreign national?

This is why people settle out of court. You never know where a legal matter will end. You and I do not know what Mr. Lakens attorney is planning, and what cards he holds.

The other problem is, Obamas original BC is the DNA of his birth. The nexus of his claim to the presidency and his NBC status. Until that comes out, I believe it is morally wrong to convict or punish any man who questions his citizenship. I am not alone in this and would not be surprised to see a civil or military Judge defend Mr. Laken and demand Obamas documents. Even in this military trial.

Oh yes, I could be wrong .... but every week there are more birthers than there were the week before. A conviction of Mr. Laken may very well create greater demand for documents. We will see.

151 posted on 05/12/2010 11:36:41 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Mr Rogers; All

> So yes, I’m calling him (or her) on it. Why?

Why? I’ll tell you why.

Because the thing Liberals like you hate (and fear) the most is when Christians fight back.

Happy to disappoint you ;)

152 posted on 05/12/2010 11:46:08 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So you’re going to ignore the Arizona House’s attempt to make candidates (not just Mr. Obama, but all of them) to prove their eligibility for the White House.”

Not hardly. As I’ve pointed out before, I support that law even if it is very mild. The law makes NO ATTEMPT to define NBC. Under it, Obama could produce his COLB and that would be that.

To force a court case, a state needs to DEFINE NBC in a way contrary to Indiana’s courts. With two different standards for getting on the ballot, the federal courts would HAVE to rule on what NBC means...except NO legislature has done so.

Not Arizona. Not Utah. No one. Think about why that is.


153 posted on 05/12/2010 11:49:23 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: MHGinTN; BP2; mojitojoe

“My being a Christian doesn’t mean I have to be tolerant toward scum like you.”

You have a unique view of Christianity.

“28 And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” 29Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” 32And the scribe said to him, “You are right, Teacher. You have truly said that he is one, and there is no other besides him. 33And to love him with all the heart and with all the understanding and with all the strength, and to love one’s neighbor as oneself, is much more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.” 34And when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.”

Mark 12


154 posted on 05/12/2010 11:54:01 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

Your posting history shows you serve the father of lies. You’re not my neighbor, shill. Did you know that the Bible states there are things God hates? ... Your posts remind me of the disgusting faux christian, Barry Lynn.


155 posted on 05/12/2010 11:59:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Tell you what...let’s let anyone reading this thread decide for themselves who is on what side. I think you’ve clarified the situation for all with eyes to see.


156 posted on 05/12/2010 12:01:27 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

I doubt your obsessive behavior will change any time soon. Keep posting, pondscum. Your false piety is an interesting study. But know this: you and your ilk will not shut up Christians by your using the rules for radicals methodology. We are under no Christian obligation to be tolerant of such as you when you serve the father of lies. Have a nice day ...


157 posted on 05/12/2010 12:27:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Mr Rogers; MHGinTN; mojitojoe; All

> You have a unique view of Christianity.

What the hell are you looking for, Mr Rogers — a hug?!

You need to grow up and get a thicker skin.

IMO, MHGinTN is being rather kind and generous.

If I posted the full extent of my disdain for you and your ilk,
the profanity and colorful metaphors would make even Rev Wright blush!


158 posted on 05/12/2010 12:46:16 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Obama could hand deliver a gold plated long form birth certificate tomorrow and it would make no difference in the outcome of this case.

A genuine and verified long form birth certificate could be used as indisputable evidence as to his status as a natural born citizen if it names two U.S. citizen parents registering a birth on U.S. territory. Beyond that, however, the birth certificate is largely irrelevant to the discussion. However, should Mr. Obama provide such a genuine and verified document, gold plated or not, I am confident Lt.Col. Lakin -- based upon his service record -- would indeed satisfy his orders as they were received. I can make this assumption due to Lt.Col. Lakin's 18 years of honorable service and the fact that this would be his second tour in Afghanistan. Furthermore, he has publicly stated his willingness to deploy upon confirmation the orders were lawfully given. Upon what do you base your supposition that he would neglect his duty if provided the confirmation he has requested?


159 posted on 05/12/2010 4:17:38 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Non-Sequitur

And at his court martial he will have a chance to show why the order of his brigade commander wasn't lawful. How's he going to do that?

Wise up ... an officer in the Army does not swear an oath to obey those of higher rank. That would be the duty of the enlisted man. Once made an officer, it becomes duty to uphold the Constitution first and foremost. The officers' oath affirms that duty. It is a protection against the military being used as a pawn of the Executive office -- even a liberal goon can understand the risk of having the entire military subservient exclusively to the will of the Commander in Chief. An officer thinks for himself and considers every order in light of the Constitution. If Lt.Col. Lakin has doubts as to the "natural born citizen" status of the CiC, it is not only his right, but his responsibility, to raise those questions through proper channels. He has done this -- and instead of being provided satisfaction, he is being told by this administration to look the other way or be punished. I'm proud he has the balls not to look the other way. He's a *real* patriot. And those too ignorant understand why that is, have no real respect for military honor.


160 posted on 05/12/2010 4:36:45 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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