Top 5 Reasons why Palin endorsed Fiorina

EEE | 07 MAY 2010 | EEE

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

TOP 5 REASONS WHY PALIN ENDORSED CARLY FIORINA

Some conservatives are angry at Governor Palin's endorsement of former Hewlett-Packard Executive Carly Fiorina. In a way, this anger is understandable, given that Chuck DeVore is the Tea Party favorite and the true conservative in the race, and Palin stated that she would support conservatives regardless of party.

Principles are important, but in certain circumstances they take a back seat to pragmatism. You can't implement your principles if you don't win first, so here is why Palin endorsed Carly:

Money. Chuck DeVore is a fine conservative, but he doesn't have the money to compete with Boxer. California is an expensive media market and a huge state requiring lots of travel and lodging. DeVore would need a minimum of $20 million just to keep his head above water, and God Bless the Tea Parties, but they'd have to hold a thousand money-bombs for DeVore, and in this economy it simply ain't happening.

History. Boxer is a POS Senator with an IQ of a bathtub ring, but she's a ruthless campaigner. Those of you screaming we need a true conservative to face Boxer - I humbly offer you the remains of Matt Fong and Bruce Herschensohn, both staunch conservatives who got shredded by Boxer. Boxer either used their conservatism against them and they apologized like dummies, or she made up some crap at the last minute which got her votes, as in the case of the strip club allegation against Herschensohn. She can't do the same to Carly.

Polls. DeVore has been running for almost a year now and yet he still can't break 20% in the polls. This with the Tea Party movement and voter discontent at Washington. He should be leading, yet he's not. That falls more on the candidate and the campaign he's running than on the political environment.

3-person race. Governor Palin was faced with what is known as a Buridan's ass choice. She can't support Campbell because he's too liberal; yet if she support the conservative, DeVore, he would lose. So she had to choose someone who represented the greater good, and that choice is Carly.

Mitt Romney. Carly has a much better chance of becoming Senator than Meg Whitman has at being Governor. Endorsing Carly neutralizes CA support of Romney in the event the two of them face off in the state. Also, it kills the canard that Palin can't attract independents and moderates (never mind that she worked with Dems in Alaska and was pretty much a pariah in the state GOP). Palin can't be stereotyped as a right-wing religious kook by endorsing Carly.

Nobody's saying Carly is the 2nd coming of Thatcher. She might become the West Coast version of Olympia Snowe, who knows. But what Carly represents is a new type of blue-state Republican in the mold of Scott Brown and Chris Christie: Someone who meets the minimum conservative threshold and will focus on taxes, spending, health-care and other big-ticket issues, and not get into pissing matches about social or other issues that the majority doesn't care about right now. Sarah's endorsement is strategic and makes perfect sense.

[rbmillerjr]

“Fiorina is the spoiler so a real conservative won’t get elected”

Bullshit. She is about as conservative as you’re going to get in California or Mass. She is Scott Brown and that aint bad, because she has the financial backing to beat Boxer in a large state.

Comparing her to a liberal like Whitman is ridiculous.

[hedgetrimmer]

People like you are what is destroying California.

Those of us who live in California have followed Ms progressive global socialist Fiorina’s career for years.

We know how despised she was st HP

We know how crooked she was, how she spied on her board members and how she received huge bonuses for outsourcing and eliminating 7000 jobs.

We know how she kowtows to the globalist NGOs promoting the soviet lifestyle for California working people and we have heard from her own lips her ideal vision for the state is to force people into soviet block housing, take away their automobiles and make them virtual slaves in the model of China.

So no she is not conservative. Electing her will drive California further into ruin, as she and the rest of the globalists pick the bones clean of a once vibrant economy and further enslave us to debt, taxes and soviet repression lifestyle.

[hocndoc]

Looks like she has learned a lesson.

I keep hearing that we don’t need professional politicians, but see gripes like yours — with all cap shouting.

Maybe she was one of the Republicans who stayed at home to “teach them a lesson” in ‘06 - when we lost the House and Senate, and ‘08, when the world was burdened with Obama, czars, and regulatory nightmares that will make us nostalgic for past bureaucracies.

Who can win against Boxer? It doesn’t look like any of the other candidates can. Campbell, I hope not. It doesn’t look like DeVore can - or should, from the reviews of his behavior after Palin endorsed Fiorina.

[hocndoc]

Define “globalism.”

Is she more or less likely to promote “globalism” than Boxer or Campbell? Does that include global abortion, global homosexual marriage, global infringement of the Second Amendment?

[catfish1957]

I can not believe that there are still Palin supporters here at FR.

[hedgetrimmer]

Define “globalism”.

Putting the global economy before your country, your state and its citizens(not what an elected representative is expected to do in a free and Constitutional republic).

Repressing your nation and state economy in or to favor the economies of the third world.

Using tax money and elected office to do all this.

Using tax money to fund corporate-populated NGO boards so they can redistribute it in the name of ‘foreign aid’ without the oversight of Congress and the American people

Using tax money to bail out global corporations period.

Using tax money to protect global corporations from any losses they may encounter because of bad business deals of their own making

Sending jobs to communist and dictator countries in order to redistribute US wealth and allow global corporations the ability to operate in these countries using slave or near slave labor.

Letting unelected global councils, global initiatives be the source of laws and regulations in the United States

Protecting businesses who use illegal immigrant labor, then using tax money to provide the benefits of citizenship to the illegals like schools, representation in our government etc,

Allowing illegal immigration in order to lower wages and displace American workers.

Forcing hospitals to provide free services to illegal aliens no matter what the cost to the citizen and taxpayer.

Funding international trade and banking NGOs with US taxpayer dollars that are run by foreign interests or nations.

Allowing the Chinese communists to own our debt and make us indebted to them.

Running up the huge trade deficits and debts to benefit the ‘global’ economy.

Giving Mikhail Gorbachev a chunk of the San Francisco Presidio to base his globalist NGO that is anti property and anti American.

Suspending high school kids for wearing American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo(yes this is a result of globalism)

As a political party, running candidates directly involved in any of this corruption, like Fiorina

Its a long list and there’s much more to it.

[rbmillerjr]

She is absolutely a conservative, just not an ideal conservative.

Your globalism charges...you use the word out, sound like conspiracy rants.

Dugh, she was in charge of a large corporation that does business overseas.

Go ahead and vote for Devore and guarantee Campbell gets clobbered by Boxer.

If Fiorina wins, you can thank me later.

[rbmillerjr]

“I can not believe that there are still Palin supporters here at FR.”

Yep, all of your RINO Romney supporting attacks on Palin and Palin still has massive conservative and FR support.

Go figure. lol

[hedgetrimmer]

She is absolutely a conservative

You tell a lie often enough, you think you're going to get people to believe it?

There is absolutely NOTHING conservative about the globalist council she sits on, NOTHING conservative about her past. So what, she just put an R after her name, like the global socialist Schwarzenegger and the California republican party believes it? Look what it has done to California so far....Its starting to look like the republican party has it in for global government and is positioning candidates to make it so.

[hocndoc]

Long list. None of which have anything to do with Fiorina - unless you have some evidence that she
“Sending jobs to communist and dictator countries in order to redistribute US wealth and allow global corporations the ability to operate in these countries using slave or near slave labor.”

“Outsourcing US wealth to redistribute US wealth???” What a crock of lies. “Re”-distribute where? (Customers to shareholders is not the bad kind of “Re-distribution of wealth.”)

What about the *government organizations” such as the EPA, the FCC, OSHA, the Department of Labor, which Boxer will give more power every chance she gets?

States like California are killing themselves with undue burdens on businesses and with the advantages they’re giving ACORN and the Unions, and by telling businesses who to hire, how much to pay and mandating benefits. (Chicago’s “living wage” law is a great example.) The US has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world, driving business and money away from our Nation.

[hocndoc]

You are not conservative if you call for protectionism mandates.

[investigateworld]

I think I have respectable conservative credentials and hereby pronounce this so called free trade b/s as pure Marxism - supported by fools who are merely jealous that they or their father's couldn't get a decent union job with a wage that would allow them to eat meat more than once a month so neer - neer neer!

[hocndoc]

You think wrong. Texas is a right to work State. Compare it with all the union States.

[investigateworld]

Whole different ball game.

Texans don't spend a fortune on Heating home and commercial/industrial spaces.

Yes, there are increased costs some months for cooling - but one can live cheaper in Texas - hence can afford to work cheaper/live better.

Plus - yet - they don't have an entrenched local and county .gov with thousands of sit around bureaucrats - yet - but following Bush's Amnesty, that will all change. Yes, Texas is a right to work state, but they still have to pay competitive rates to attract talent. But not a whole lot, as the buck goes further in Texas.

[hedgetrimmer]

"Sending jobs to communist and dictator countries"

Two leading Silicon Valley chief executives, reacting Wednesday to criticism they’ve shipped too many high-tech jobs overseas, defended hiring workers in India and China and warned that the United States and particularly California were in danger of losing their competitive edge to the Far East.

“There is no job that is America’s God-given right anymore,” said Carly Fiorina, chairman of Palo Alto information technology giant Hewlett Packard. This is free traitor BS

The comments came as part of the tech industry’s counteroffensive against intensifying criticism about the export of high-tech jobs.

Fiorina warned against the growing protectionist backlash, saying the only alternative to losing jobs overseas was to make a national decision to stay ahead of foreign competitors by improving grade-school education, doubling federal spending on basic research and forming a national broadband policy, as Japan and Korea have done.

double federal spending!= small government conservative, how she intends to 'improve grade school education at the federal level clearly violates the conservative philosophy that the federal government has no business in education, and a 'national' broadband policy? How can that be accomplished without putting all the small providers out of business and forming unconstitutional controls with the big ones

“It’s interesting to me that so many people talk about China or India or Russia as being a source of low-cost labor,” Fiorina said. “Truthfully, over the long term, the greater threat is the source of well-educated labor. And if you look at the number of college-educated students that China graduates every year, it’s close to 40 million. The law of large numbers is fairly compelling.”

here she insults Americans by claiming communist educated slave laborers are better than free, American educated workforce.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/01/08/MNGDI45PV01.DTL#ixzz0nMSlvla4

[hedgetrimmer]

“Outsourcing US wealth to redistribute US wealth???” What a crock of lies. “Re”-distribute where? (Customers to shareholders is not the bad kind of “Re-distribution of wealth.”)

You show your lack of understanding about how the global trade system works. Ever hear of a 'least developed country'?

They receive huge welfare under the global trading system that US taxpayers fund. Now I will show you how Fiorina is pushing this agenda with her council affiliation with the World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD)? Sustainable development is global socialism. That's ALL. How dare the republican party put out a candidate that is in a council WORKING TOWARD GLOBAL SOCIALISM. She is working as a poverty pimp.

http://www.wbcsd.org/plugins/DocSearch/details.asp?type=DocDet&ObjectId=12300

Tell me, how can this discussion even be happening in what is suppose to be a FREE country? It's because free traitors LOVE global socialism because it puts all the cost of labor on the shoulders of the US tax payer. It is about as Anti-American as anything gets, and Fiorina was at the head of the class bringing economic decline to California.

[hedgetrimmer]

The US has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world, driving business and money away from our Nation.

Boo hoo, those corporations are crying crocodile tears as they take trillions of dollars from the taxpayer in bailouts.

The citizen is taxed to death to support these global monsters and quite frankly people have had enough! Fiorina is one of the WORST candidates every posed by the GOP

[hedgetrimmer]

You are not conservative if you call for protectionism mandates

You're not an American if you don't know that the country was founded on the principle of protecting the domestic economy. Tariffs are constitutional. Only an sellout argues that America shouldn't be protected from the global looters.

[usconservative]

All I’ll say is this: If Sarah Palin shows up in Illinois and endorses that RINO POS Mark Kirk, she’s done. Period, end of story.

[investigateworld]

That's why I love to play with the free trade crowd.... play with them long enough and they reveal themselves.

Remember that exchange where I took a shot in the dark that Low Country Joe was a .gov + NGO employee and not in the productive world?

"Twas a fun thread!