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To: newheart
No, the problem is that if they are nuclear, they will cause a collective, continual, non-stop sense of dread in Israel. People will never know whether they can be deterred or not. They’ll never know from one day to another what a theocrat will say. All that will have a cumulative effect, as we heard last night, quite presciently by the Senator—that more people will want to emigrate out of Israel, that more people live tense and unhappy lives. It’s sort of putting a gun to somebody’s head, and saying, “I’m going to turn the six-bullet chamber and see whether the one bullet fires—maybe or maybe not. It’s a form of nuclear Russian roulette, and it will have an emotional toll on Israel. Obama doesn’t seem to get that.

Obama "gets it". He understands that having an Iran with nuclear arms will be a constant threat to Israel ( with all the emotional anxiety that goes with it.)

Obama HATES Jews!...and..He is pleased to have Jews suffer.

Is it because he is possibly a Muslim? Raised for part of his childhood in Indonesia? His association with Rev. Wright? His "elite" education? Possibly, it is all of these factors.

6 posted on 05/07/2010 12:40:15 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime; nathanbedford
Obama HATES Jews!...and..He is pleased to have Jews suffer.

I don't know if Obama hates Jews. In fact, I suspect that he does not in any universal sense, he has far too many Jews working in his administration for that to be the case.

Is he Muslim? I doubt it. Is he Christian? He would say so, and depending on what he meant by that I might not be in the position to question his statement. (No doubt that one will get me in trouble.) I have an alternative theory, and here is where I disagree somewhat with nathanbedford, who suggests in post 5 that Obama is a man without a soul and without a moral compass.

Instead, I believe that his belief system is more akin to Baha'i, though not in any formal sense. (The Wikipedia article on Baha'i is not informative if you are curious.) They believe in God, one who is inaccessible, but they also believe that our knowledge of God is a matter of progressive revelation and as such, they argue that all religions are merely part of that progressive revelation, thus lending a degree of credence to all religions. It is also interesting to note that Baha'i is an offshoot of Shia Islam.

They argue for an essential 'oneness' to all humanity and look toward the day when we all, as rational beings, are able to eliminate prejudice and achieve a collective unity that transcends nations. Baha'i calls for the development of a new global social and political structure and universal demilitarization.

From the Wikipedia article: The Bahá'í writings note that unity will not be arrived at through the suppression of difference, but instead when each respects the intrinsic value of other individuals and cultures.In this view, it is not the diversity that causes conflict, but rather people's intolerance and prejudice towards diversity.(Could be a direct quote from Obama's infamous Cairo speech.)

I would argue that these beliefs track closely with the generally unnamed religious impulse of the left, including those who prefer to be called progressive. (Although, as their feel-good approach begins to fail, they will not hesitate to move on to 'suppression of difference.') It is the 'all you need is love' 'I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect har-mo-nee' view of life that fails to recognize the realities of humanity's fallen nature and fails to understand that all religious belief systems are NOT the same.

As noble sounding as it may be, it is the ideal narcissist world view making it the perfect vehicle for someone like Obama, the narcissist-in-chief. (That is where I absolutely agree with nathanbedford, Obama's narcissism is his defining trait.) Tolerance becomes the supreme virtue in the Baha'i worldview and tolerance is among the more subjective and condescending positions a human being can take. Tolerance allows you to believe that you are more evolved than others, but that you will 'tolerate' them and 'help' them catch up with you.

I think Obama, because of his mixed racial heritage, his education and his multi-cultural experiences in childhood, does believe himself to be the ideal model for the enlightened, global citizen of the future world without borders and without prejudices. He genuinely believes that he can 'talk' people into changing. And although that grows out of his narcissism, it is his naivete that scares me the most. Because, as Col. Jessup so memorably put it, in the climax of 'A Few Good Men,' "Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns."

7 posted on 05/07/2010 2:15:25 PM PDT by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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