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1 posted on 05/05/2010 1:31:39 PM PDT by Welshman007
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WHY ARE SO MANY "CONSERVATIVES" FOR SHAMNESTY?!?!?!

WTF IS WRONG WITH THESE MORONS!?

2 posted on 05/05/2010 1:32:32 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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I wonder how the author defines “amnesty?”

Personally, I find Krauthammer to be an astute analyst.


5 posted on 05/05/2010 1:41:35 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Since the borders aren’t going to be effectively closed any time soon, does that mean he’s really not for amnesty?


10 posted on 05/05/2010 1:45:19 PM PDT by x
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Krauthammer made me so mad last night....

He forgot to mention how unfair to the AMERICAN people all of this is...


14 posted on 05/05/2010 1:51:18 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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Then, beginning in the late 1960s under LBJ and a Congress heavily dominated by liberal Democrats (with Ted Kennedy taking the lead), the nation threw to the wind those reasonable limits.

Most people, including LBJ, did not see the future consequences of Kennedy's immigration bill, which was supposedly about "fairness" and "against racism." However, near the end of his life, Ted Kennedy said that he was PROUD of the consequences of his bill--turning the United States of America into a Third World country!!!!

18 posted on 05/05/2010 1:57:42 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Ping!


19 posted on 05/05/2010 2:11:21 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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Like most neocons, Krathammer is a social liberal. He started out in politics as a member of the Carter Administration and was a speech writer for Walter Mondale. He has written, and still writes for The New Republic and the Weekly Standard.

He is a definitely a hawk and a very bright and articulate individual.

Krathammer is a Beltway insider and definitely an elitist. he is a neocon, rather than a conservative, and he isn't necessarily on our - the conservative - side on many issues.

20 posted on 05/05/2010 2:14:13 PM PDT by bwc2221
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However, the Krauthammer plan begins to break apart at the point of what to do once the borders are secure. He proposes a 'path to citizenship' that amounts to amnesty, which once again rewards illegal behavior. This is grossly unfair to the millions of LEGAL immigrants who have honorably entered the country according to the law, and initiated the process of becoming naturalized citizens according to U.S. statutes. It is a slap in the face to the millions of Hispanics and Mexicans who have their citizenship legally, only to watch as the government winks at those who break the law and get ahead of others in the line.

That's where I break with Krauthammer too. Not just hispanics and Mexicans but many other foreigners have been waiting literally for decades trying to go through the legal process. They WANT to be Americans and they obviously WANT to do it legally. I want THOSE people to get a break.

Sending 12-20 million illegal aliens back to Mexico would not be feasible or practical. Many of them have family members that are legal citizens. The prudent course of action would be to fine them and send them to the back of the line, requiring them to pay their fees like everyone else, but waiting their turn behind the millions of others around the world who are waiting to get into the country legally.

That is not really different than Krauthammer's position. They get to stay here while they "wait." They fill the slots that the legally-minded immigrants would like. I disagree that sending illegal aliens home is not feasible or practical. AZ just sent 1/5th to 1/4 of their illegals packing in two weeks (if we are to believe the MSM) just by making a law that mirrors Federal law. Five simple things will practically and effectively send 90+% of illegal aliens packing.

Most of that is just enforcing the laws we have and spending the money already allocated for a border fence.

26 posted on 05/05/2010 2:27:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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Krauthammer is not your typical “conservative.” He is a solid conservative on foreign policy and economic issues, but on social issues, his views are unorthodox. For instance, he is a staunch anti-Second Amendment man.


52 posted on 05/05/2010 7:03:04 PM PDT by ZULU
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Let's not be too harsh on the Cabbage-Smasher (Ger: Kraut- Hammer).

After all, St. Rush of Holy Limbaugh told us for years that "illegal immigration was the sign of a healthy economy and nothing to worry about!" This of course, was the mantra of the US Chamber of Commerce.

Members of the VRWC, me included, have to always remember that our favorite yakkers are about selling ad time, market segmentation, and entertainment. The GOP is in the ridiculous position of having media people as its chief public exponents. Our elected Republicans have to do more of the heavy lifting to get back their self-respecty.

60 posted on 05/06/2010 6:34:01 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama. He'll bring back States' Rights. In the meantime, this ain't gonna be pretty.)
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