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Did Faisal Shahzad Nearly Get Away?
CBS News Investigates ^ | May 4, 2010 | Daniel Farber

Posted on 05/04/2010 9:51:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Federal complaint against Faisal Shahzad documents that the Pakistani-American tried to detonate a bomb in Times Square and received bomb-making training in Waziristan, Pakistan. Shahzad was tracked as a suspect since late Sunday night, and was added to a no-fly list as a possible terrorist.

Yet, the Times Square bombing suspect managed to board Emirates flight 202 to Dubai on Monday night. Shahzad was arrested by U.S. Customs Border Protection (CBP) officials before it left the gate, but after the plane plane was fully boarded and the door closed.

Most curious is how Shahzad, a suspected and potentially dangerous car bomber who was being tracked by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies since late Sunday, was able to drive to crowded Kennedy Airport, with a loaded 9mm handgun with extra clips in the car. It appears that the FBI and others watching Shahzad lost track of him for a period of time as he made his way toward the airport in Long Island.

When asked about Shahzad's movements, Attorney General Eric Holder said, "I was here all yesterday and through much of last night and was aware of the tracking that was going on. And I was never in any fear that we were in danger of losing him."

In 2007, a similar domestic terrorism incident occurred in the UK. Two explosives-filled Mercedes were discovered in major tourist areas of London, near Piccadilly Circus and Trafalgar Square. Police were able to disable the car bombs. The day after the car bombs were discovered in London, a Jeep Cherokee loaded with propane gas was driven into a terminal at Glasgow International Airport. The perpetrators of the Mercedes and Jeep car bombs were an Iraqi doctor and Indian aeronautical engineer.(continued)

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Travel
KEYWORDS: bho44; birminghamcell; ctcell; ericholder; faisalshahzad; maydaybomber; napolitano; nationalsecurityfail; obama; obamasfault; shahzad; terrorism; tigertiger; trainingcamps; wazaristan; wot
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How long can we rely on chance, luck or providence to keep us safe? When do the grownups take responsibility again?
1 posted on 05/04/2010 9:51:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He came as close as you could come. Plus, I wonder if Dubai would have extradited him. To the best of my knowledge, we have no formal extradition treaty with Dubai.


2 posted on 05/04/2010 9:54:49 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My understanding is that the plane was No. 1 to take off (not just boarded and doors shut).

And for the record, reporters and reporterettes, is not a ‘clip’ that his 9mm uses, it is ‘magazines’ that piece is designed to use.

/Rant off


3 posted on 05/04/2010 9:55:36 PM PDT by elpinta (Jer. 10:23)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, one more:

We should be glad that this batch of terrorist PIGS are as incompetent as the current BOZOS in DC.


4 posted on 05/04/2010 9:57:34 PM PDT by elpinta (Jer. 10:23)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Shahzad was arrested by U.S. Customs Border Protection (CBP) officials before it left the gate, but after the plane plane was fully boarded and the door closed.

Nope. There are tapes of the tower ordering the plane to taxi BACK to the gate. And I heard it was not customs but NYPD that actually pulled him off the plane.

5 posted on 05/04/2010 9:58:36 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: OldDeckHand
You were saying ...

He came as close as you could come. Plus, I wonder if Dubai would have extradited him. To the best of my knowledge, we have no formal extradition treaty with Dubai.

Well..., I can see a big security loophole that this Administration is going to have to close up now ... since it's been exposed. It looks like (at least to me) that this security loophole has been here with us since the beginning of the no-fly lists.

From what I read, the Feds put this guy on the no-fly list. But, the Arab airline that he got tickets with -- they weren't in the habit of updating their no-fly list very often, so they sold him the tickets, even though he was on the Feds' no-fly list. The airline just didn't bother updating their list.

So, when the airline sent the passenger list over to the Feds (apparently something all the airlines do), that's when the Feds "caught it" and saw that he was on board that Arab airline. And that's when they moved in and stopped that flight from leaving.

I would say that the Feds need to "close up" that loophole and make sure that ther airlines update their no-fly list everyday -- and also, if there is someone who is immediately wanted (i.e., is "on the run") then the airlines need a notification system that they can use and check with to remain updated by the minute for any "on the run" individuals" that have just been put on the list in the last few minutes.

It's a good thing that the Feds caught the guy's name on that passenger list, just at the time when the flight was getting ready to leave ... hoo-boy!

6 posted on 05/04/2010 10:01:24 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Faishial shnaisial’s pug sniffin thing felt U aint got to B so hard..
7 posted on 05/04/2010 10:02:47 PM PDT by allmost
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To: elpinta
You were saying ...

My understanding is that the plane was No. 1 to take off (not just boarded and doors shut).

That's close to take-off, for sure. but I'm also sure that the Feds could have had the plane diverted, once it was in the air, too. It wouldn't take much to send a couple of military planes after it and direct it back to an airport to "disgorge" the terrorist.

So, even though that sounds fairly dramatic (and it probably is...), there was still "measures" that they could have taken to "get him" in any case...

8 posted on 05/04/2010 10:04:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Don’t you know this animal thought he was home free?

MM


9 posted on 05/04/2010 10:06:22 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: Star Traveler
It's a good thing that the Feds caught the guy's name on that passenger list, just at the time when the flight was getting ready to leave ... hoo-boy!

Yep. If he'd have had false papers he'd have been gone, gone, gone.

10 posted on 05/04/2010 10:06:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("In DC, it's about politics. In Arizona, it's about survival." -- Ralph Peters)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gibbs, who is Hussein’s incompetent press agent,, should keep his stupid mouth shut when talking about how we track terrorists. He have away at least two technical details that Homeland Security uses in tracking people like this clown.


11 posted on 05/04/2010 10:08:30 PM PDT by Larry381 (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt)
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To: TLI

This thread has a link to the audio tape of the traffic controller ordering the plane (which was #1 to take off) back to the gate.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2506638/posts


12 posted on 05/04/2010 10:10:28 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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Fingers are being pointed by Obama and company......

Obama administration says Emirates Airlines dropped the ball - 9/11 Commission Vice-Chair says US govt is dropping the ball

13 posted on 05/04/2010 10:19:26 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It was seconds from taking off.


14 posted on 05/04/2010 10:19:28 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: TLI

On the tape before they told them to go back to the gate, they were just about to tell them to take off.


15 posted on 05/04/2010 10:20:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Star Traveler
That's close to take-off, for sure. but I'm also sure that the Feds could have had the plane diverted, once it was in the air, too. It wouldn't take much to send a couple of military planes after it and direct it back to an airport to "disgorge" the terrorist.

The pilot most likely would have turned around if he was not too far out over the Atlantic. We may not have extradition with Dubai, but the airline certainly wants to do business in America.

16 posted on 05/04/2010 10:23:38 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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Looks like CBS finally got A Round Toit ...

In 2007, a similar domestic terrorism incident occurred in the UK. Two explosives-filled Mercedes were discovered in major tourist areas of London, near Piccadilly Circus and Trafalgar Square. Police were able to disable the car bombs. The day after the car bombs were discovered in London, a Jeep Cherokee loaded with propane gas was driven into a terminal at Glasgow International Airport. The perpetrators of the Mercedes and Jeep car bombs were an Iraqi doctor and Indian aeronautical engineer...

Tiger Tiger Nightclub plot... preceded Glasgow doctors' plot.

17 posted on 05/04/2010 10:33:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never fear, Shahzad... just because we caught you doesn’t mean Eric Holder can’t get you pardoned like the FALN terrorists.


18 posted on 05/04/2010 10:38:21 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Have they picked the Caribbean island where we’ll relocate him to? What kind of business will we set him up in? Restaurant or charter boat? Condo or townhouse? Ocean view or oceanfront?


19 posted on 05/04/2010 10:50:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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Well, you know, he could be made Obama's Czar Czar. Assuming we don't have one of those already. :-)

One thing for sure, he'll never know a waterboard, and we'll never know who all his buddies are.

20 posted on 05/04/2010 10:58:50 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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