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What did Sarah Palin mean by *a Christian nation*?
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| April 27, 2010 at 6:25 PM
| Josh Painter
Posted on 04/27/2010 5:39:49 PM PDT by Josh Painter
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To: Josh Painter
Thanks. I am going with I was partly correct. ,-)
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:17:41 PM PDT
by
svcw
(Habakkuk 2:3)
To: svcw; Tarpon
Church and State separation was a USSC ruling in 1947. Somehow they twisted the 14th amendment to forbid religious practice from public affairs then used it Against the first amendment.
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:18:47 PM PDT
by
eyedigress
((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
To: jessduntno
But were they Christians, and did they found a Christian nation? Yes.No, they were very clear they did not in the First Amendment to the Consitution.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:23:53 PM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
The 14th amendment guaranteed emancipated slaves civil rights and citizenship in all states. Somehow this was twisted to prohibit religious activity in public affairs. The USSC used the 14th amendment to trump the 1st amendment.
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:27:13 PM PDT
by
eyedigress
((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
To: Doe Eyes
Congress until lately has had absolutely nothing to do with the reality that this is indeed a Christian nation.
Or was for a few centuries anyway.
Until congress decided otherwise.
To: nkycincinnatikid
Congress until lately has had absolutely nothing to do with the reality that this is indeed a Christian nation. Or was for a few centuries anyway. Until congress decided otherwise.Do you understand the word, "founded"?
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:37:20 PM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
The case was Everson vs The Board of Education. 1947
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:38:57 PM PDT
by
eyedigress
((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
To: Josh Painter
The founders no doubt expected Christianity to be the religion of the people, but the founders were also clear that a man’s conscience was his own. The Virginia statute for religious freedom, penned by Thomas Jefferson and enacted in Virginia in 1786, is as much proof as anyone needs.
The founders would have recoiled at at the idea of Christian faith being undertaken under any circumstances other then that of free will. Unfortunately, we have many with us today (reconstructionists) who are forthright with their belief that there is nothing wrong with the state compelling religious compliance.
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:41:00 PM PDT
by
Melas
To: Josh Painter
The views of both Madison and Jefferson were clear as to the intended separation of Church and State.
That is not to say that there should be separation of God and State.
Church is not God.
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:43:50 PM PDT
by
allmendream
(Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
To: Doe Eyes
To be quite honest, I not sure I understand what you are asking, nor how the definition of a word I have not seen previously used has arrived in your question.
To: allmendream
The founders were trying to protect the freedom of religion and the exercise thereof. (Still ever aware of England’s mandate).
The US Government perverted the whole thing and is basically trying to abolish religion freedom. It seems we have seen this before. JMHO
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:50:43 PM PDT
by
eyedigress
((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
To: nkycincinnatikid
To be quite honest, I not sure I understand what you are asking, nor how the definition of a word I have not seen previously used has arrived in your question.If you followed the posts you butted into, you would find,
But were they Christians, and did they found a Christian nation?
That's what I was responding to.
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posted on
04/27/2010 6:58:09 PM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
To: Josh Painter
>"I therefore beg leave to move-that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessings on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business"Therein lies the problem, our "representatives" have been praying in the wrong direction.
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posted on
04/27/2010 7:01:28 PM PDT
by
rawcatslyentist
(And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, John 1:14)
To: Melas
The founders no doubt expected Christianity to be the religion of the peopleNo, the founders expected this to be a country in which the citizens were able to freely worship, without interference from the Government.
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posted on
04/27/2010 7:03:10 PM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
To: Doe Eyes
Found is the past tense of find.
Founded is a legitimate word, but not, perhaps, the one you want, nes pas?
To: Josh Painter
This is an excellent subject and post.
The Deist myth is pounded down our children’s throats by liberal C-student school teachers.
Set you kids straight on this and other areas of history.
To: nkycincinnatikid
Found is the past tense of find. Founded is a legitimate word, but not, perhaps, the one you want, nes pas? You play word games, but you don't respond the real question.
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posted on
04/27/2010 7:10:28 PM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
To: Josh Painter
It depends upon what you mean by Christian? If you understand Christian as defined in the Ecumenical Creeds, then the answer is mixed. Some were Christian, some were Deists, and some were Unitarians, such as John Adams. Thomas Jefferson is a prime example of a Deist. One only needs to read his redacted version of the New Testament to know that he denied the fundamental teachings of creedal Christianity. Jefferson did believe that Atheists were untrustworthy because they did not believe in the existence of God.
There is no doubt that the Declaration of Independence was founded upon the belief in a Creator and Nature's God. They believed in divine providence. They believed that the moral teachings of Christianity were essential for the survival of a nation. What they decided to do was base government upon reason and justice, and not upon a particular Christian faith, nor establish a Church of America. They did not seek to look into men's souls, but judged a man by his deeds.
To: nkycincinnatikid
Founded is a legitimate word, but not, perhaps, the one you want, nes pas? Founded - To establish or set up, especially with provision for continuing existence
Which is what I meant.
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posted on
04/27/2010 7:19:24 PM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
To: Melas
Unfortunately, we have many with us today (reconstructionists) who are forthright with their belief that there is nothing wrong with the state compelling religious compliance.For example?
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