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Analyzed Video of Gun Shots at Smolensk Crash Site: Survior on Ground?
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Posted on 04/20/2010 5:36:38 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse

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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Wish there was some way the vid could be taken and ‘cleaned up’ somehow. It is ‘pixelated’ and difficult to make out some things....especially at the end where, from the description, there was a person ‘jumping from the plane and falls down after gunfire’.

Unfortunately, there's not a lot of "cleaning" that can be done with low-rez digital footage like this. Some, but nothing dramatic. What CAN be done is image stabilization, but it's gonna be time consuming because the videographer was moving around so much.

MM (in TX)

21 posted on 04/20/2010 7:06:27 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: theanchoragedailyruse
I don't get the "siren". Sure was loud and sounded more like a steam train whistle than a siren.

The looting aspect is interesting. Perhaps the shots were into the air to shoo away looters.

22 posted on 04/20/2010 7:06:47 PM PDT by FReepaholic (I'm in my head and can't get out.)
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To: FReepaholic

Ron Brown PING!


23 posted on 04/20/2010 7:13:50 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I personally don’t put off anything. Surviors have come from all disasters including earthquakes and crashes.

http://www.airsafe.com/events/survivor.htm

The evidence to the contrary to your comment on survivors is there.

There are three people walking along the horizon two in black and one in red. Someone jumped from the cockpit windshield and you can see the discharge of smoke away from the cockpit windshield(in another video).

There looks as if someone is in white lying on the ground or kneeling and has moved their arm.

This is not to say these are survivors.

They could be people who were at the site before the Russian authorities arrived and teh authorities are chasing them off with warning shots.


24 posted on 04/20/2010 7:17:39 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: driftdiver
Reports were the pilot had been dumping fuel.
25 posted on 04/20/2010 7:26:32 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

Thanks! I’ll check it out.


26 posted on 04/20/2010 7:27:49 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: MississippiMan

That would be ‘frame by frame’....so-to-speak?


27 posted on 04/20/2010 7:29:39 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: FReepaholic

The siren DID sound like an old train. I asked my husband if they were still in use when he visited and he confirmed.


28 posted on 04/20/2010 7:31:18 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
That would be ‘frame by frame’....so-to-speak?

Not quite, but still bad. Prolly more info than you wanted, but the key to stabilization is finding one high-contrast feature that's visible throughout the clip. Then the software can stabilize around that one feature. Unfortunately, the videographer moves around so much that there are rarely more than a few seconds at a time that can be stabilized. You'd have to break the original out into a bunch of subclips, then stabilize the subclips one at a time, then edit them back together. Make sense?

MM (in TX)

29 posted on 04/20/2010 7:39:05 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: MississippiMan

It does make sense. Thanks for ‘splainin’! ;-)


30 posted on 04/20/2010 7:53:11 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
It does make sense. Thanks for ‘splainin’! ;-)

Most welcome!

MM (in TX)

31 posted on 04/20/2010 8:08:15 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: Army Air Corps

Bump


32 posted on 04/20/2010 8:12:55 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: BunnySlippers

Here ya go on conspiracies..

http://www.wbj.pl/article-49333-prosecutor-investigates-lightbulb-changes-at-smolensk-airport.html?typ=ise

Prosecutor investigates lightbulb changes at Smolensk airport


33 posted on 04/20/2010 8:58:33 PM PDT by theanchoragedailyruse
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; FReepaholic

It was most likely a steam whistle alarm at a nearby industrial sight or airport facility. steam boilers are used for industrial processes and building heat, so it would make perfect sense to have a whistle for an alarm... think about the factory whistles for calling shifts... or the alarm whistle at coal mines of days gone by.


34 posted on 04/20/2010 8:59:41 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

I suppose I would consider that quite ‘primitive’ compared to what we have in the West......comparing a siren that could be used at an airport. When journalists were on the scene.....there was a more modern siren wailing in the background. I will have to dig up the vid.


35 posted on 04/20/2010 9:06:03 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
this ‘siren’ is probably sounds of fire-engines. At least they are very similar to russian fire-engines’ sirens
36 posted on 04/21/2010 4:26:42 AM PDT by KenalTheOne
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To: KenalTheOne

Thanks! I didn’t know that.


37 posted on 04/21/2010 6:23:19 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I am Polish and I don't know what I should think about this video. But I can hear: dawaj gnata! - give me handgun and then nie zabijajcie nas - don't kill us.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frgKTW3jm_Y 0:46. I am a little bit confused. http://www.pino.pl/article-view/id,673704,type,1,t,smolensk-strzaly-napisy-pl-katastrofa-tu-154-pod-smolenskiem 0:47 You can hear “Don't kill us” better.
38 posted on 04/21/2010 11:08:58 AM PDT by altolusso
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
I am Polish and I don't know what I should think about this video. But I can hear: dawaj gnata! - give me handgun and then nie zabijajcie nas - don't kill us.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frgKTW3jm_Y 0:46. I am a little bit confused. http://www.pino.pl/article-view/id,673704,type,1,t,smolensk-strzaly-napisy-pl-katastrofa-tu-154-pod-smolenskiem 0:47 You can hear “Don't kill us” better.
39 posted on 04/21/2010 11:08:58 AM PDT by altolusso
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To: theanchoragedailyruse

If this is true...I am sure this was the price we had to pay for the nuke deal...green light on the Ruskies plan...

UNBELIEVABLE...


40 posted on 04/21/2010 11:19:37 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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