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To: Kartographer

You denied every scripture I quoted. You are failing to met your obligations to protect you and yours against random acts of violence. You fail to to take steps as instructed. And you want to lecture me?

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Random? When God is against your land on the part of the lukewarm church, and raises up evil government well deserved by the church, you’re welcome to deflect and ignore by calling violence by the government “random”, and thus doing so falsely exonerate yourself and the church, and falsely give yourself license to take up arms.

Please don’t lie to yourself and this forum by calling the righteous judgment of the USA, “random”.

Your words echo those of , “Then the officials said to the king, “Let this man be put to death, for he is weakening the hands of the soldiers who are left in this city, and the hands of all the people, by speaking such words to them. For this man is not seeking the welfare of this people, but their harm.”


35 posted on 04/14/2010 3:13:11 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: ROTB

In you world the shepherd stays home and prays that GOD will stop the wolves from killing his sheep. In mine the shepherd prays to GOD to give him the strength and the crourage to take-up the staff and go out an protect them. /p>


39 posted on 04/14/2010 3:31:13 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: ROTB; Kartographer
okay rotb, i think ya just jumped the shark here...

by calling the righteous judgment of the USA, “random”.

first, the random i understood him to mean avg street thugs, vs atf-fbi-cia-nsa-etc but alas, you say potato...

now 'righteous judgment' begs the question, when did The Lord reveal His thoughts and feelings to ya ???

im not gonna say that it aint possible, but you dont KNOW it is...

64 posted on 04/14/2010 8:15:58 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: ROTB; Kartographer

forgot to add, Luke 22:36 was THE verse that sparked my interest in learnin more about the Lord [also used it in my tag for a long time], so for me it is a very personal and none too insignifigant passage, one that I KNOW for my particular heart means that I need to be prepared for whatever happens...


65 posted on 04/14/2010 8:19:52 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: ROTB

>Random? When God is against your land on the part of the lukewarm church, and raises up evil government well deserved by the church,

Does that absolve you, as a man [I’m assuming], from your duty to [protect] your family? If so, why?

>you’re welcome to deflect and ignore by calling violence by the government “random”,

But the violence that will happen when the government collapses will be random.

>and thus doing so falsely exonerate yourself and the church, and falsely give yourself license to take up arms.

Do you remember the story of Esther? Did her effort [and Mordecai’s] to change the law to allow the jews to defend themselves work against God? Were the jews who defended themselves, in accordance with that law, going against God’s authorities?

So, if the United States has as [part of] its highest law the right to keep and bear arms as “necessary to the security of a free state” is using that right against an government official.organization who is disobeying the law permissible? If not, why?

>Please don’t lie to yourself and this forum by calling the righteous judgment of the USA, “random”.

What I’m reminded of is the saying that all that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. {It’s not scripture, but a very good saying; where is the Justice in allowing evil you may prevent from occurring?}

>Your words echo those of , “Then the officials said to the king, “Let this man be put to death, for he is weakening the hands of the soldiers who are left in this city, and the hands of all the people, by speaking such words to them. For this man is not seeking the welfare of this people, but their harm.”

Where is that from? {It sounds familiar, but I can’t quite place the story.}


79 posted on 04/15/2010 1:03:15 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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